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They have promised to push the Jews into the sea for along time. Thats your answer,

FYI, the PLO signed a peace treaty Israel in 1993 recognizing Israel right to exists. On the other hand, the Likud Party has never recognized the Palestinians right to exist.






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FYI, the PLO signed a peace treaty Israel in 1993 recognizing Israel right to exists


And since 1993 the PLO has left Israel alone and has laid down their weapons, right?






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And since 1993 the PLO has left Israel alone and has laid down their weapons, right?

Why do folks like you and Jeauxbleaux make up lies about "promises to push the Jews into the sea" when the PLO has been saying the exact opposite for 20 years?






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No slant in that article at all


These were the EXACT words that came through my head upon reading the first sentence of the OP






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These were the EXACT words that came through my head upon reading the first sentence of the OP

Given the reaction of AIPAC and Netanyahu to Hassan Rouhani's outreach and Obama's reciprocation, don't you think the author was prescient?

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Barack Obama and Hassan Rouhani have spoken. And they are on the same page. By that I mean not they agree about the issues dividing the two countries but that they are both ready to move forward, to test each other and see if an agreement is possible.

As tentative as all this is, it is a major breakthrough – as anyone who has paid even a little attention over the past 34 years knows.

However, I do not see this process leading anywhere because the Netanyahu government and its lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), are determined to end the process and they have the ability to do it.

They intend to use the United States Congress to cause Rouhani toabandon negotiations by making clear that Congress will accept nothing short of an Iranian surrender on nuclear issues. Unlike President Obama who wants to ensure that Iran’s nuclear program is not used to produce weapons, the lobby, which writes the laws imposing sanctions on Iran, insists that Iran give up its nuclear program entirely.

AIPAC listed its demands in a statement last week.

Its bottom line is this: Congress must not consider lifting economic sanctions until the Iranians stop uranium enrichment, stop work on installing new centrifuges, allow international inspection of nuclear sites, and move out of the country its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. In contrast to the administration which, recognizing that Iran (like every other country) has the right to nuclear power for peaceful purposes, AIPAC says that Iran has no such right. (Israel, of course, has a large stockpile of nuclear weapons but, hey, that’s different.)

Not only that, if Iran does not agree to total nuclear surrender, “The United States must support Israel’s right to act against Iran if it feels compelled—in its own legitimate self-defense—to act.”

In other words: the only way for Iran to avoid a military attack is by totally dismantling all its nuclear facilities and potential. (Actually Israel itself addresses the “potential” by repeatedly assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists on Iranian soil). This contrasts with the U.S. view that each step toward compliance by Iran would result in the lifting of some sanctions.

AIPAC is already preparing legislation that will send a clear message to Rouhani: don’t bother reaching out to the West because you will achieve nothing.

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The pro-Israel lobbying group AIPAC “actively discouraged” an effort by Iranian President Hassan Rouhani to reach out to Iranian-American Jews in Los Angeles, according to Sinai Temple’s Rabbi David Wolpe.

During Shabbat services on Sept. 21, Wolpe informed his congregation, which has a sizable population of Iranian-American Jews, that Rouhani had extended a request to meet with several members of L.A.’s Iranian Jewish community, but that AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) had discouraged such a meeting.

“AIPAC was concerned that a meeting would be used for propaganda purposes,” Wolpe told the Journal on Sep. 25. “I was happy to announce that as AIPAC’s position, though I myself didn't take a position.”

AIPAC’s West Coast office declined to comment. As of press time, the group’s spokesman in its Washington, D.C. headquarters had not returned the Journal’s telephone call or e-mail.

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The PLO is not a problem any more. Abbas seems like a reasonable sort and can be a partner in peace. Hamas and Hezbollah have not gotten the message.

Abbas can be the president of independent Palestine if they let him.






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The PLO is not a problem any more. Abbas seems like a reasonable sort and can be a partner in peace. Hamas and Hezbollah have not gotten the message.

Abbas can be the president of independent Palestine if they let him

And yet Bibi undermines Abbas at every opportunity he gets, instead of rewarding him for sticking to non-violence.






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Bibi in a dilemma. If he gets too close to Abbas, Hamas and Hezbollah will eliminate Abbas as a traitor. Abbas has to walk a fine line between the terrorists and looking like a stooge.

Bibi needs to stand up and state clearly that he is for a 2 state solution but then again he has domestic politics. Both Bibi and Abbas need to "team" up for the benefit of both peoples. US needs to support this






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Bibi in a dilemma. If he gets too close to Abbas, Hamas and Hezbollah will eliminate Abbas as a traitor. Abbas has to walk a fine line between the terrorists and looking like a stooge.

That's bullshite! Hamas has repeatedly given Abbas the green light to try and negotiate a deal, but it has yet to bear any fruit. So far all he has gotten is continued settlement building, property confiscations and demolition of Palestinian homes. And I don't why you bring Hezbollah into this since that's a Lebanese organization that has nothing to do with the PLO. Also, let me remind you that after Arafat and Rabin signed a peace deal, it was Rabin who was assassinated, not Arafat, and any Israeli leader who goes down the same path as Rabin will meet the same fate as him.

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Bibi needs to stand up and state clearly that he is for a 2 state solution but then again he has domestic politics. Both Bibi and Abbas need to "team" up for the benefit of both peoples. US needs to support this

Not you're getting to the crux of the matter, the hardliners. However, the Palestinian hardliners (Hamas) have already accepted the Saudi peace plan, it is the Israeli hardliners who reject it.






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I know that, but I want him to say when "peace" will be declared according to the Muslims of the ME what will be the end result with the Jews of the area. The Muslims prior to 1948 were doves carrying olive branches according to Slow and Mr. Gestapo.





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If Israel doesn't have a bogeyman and goes gently into that good night, then track, CT, etc. have no bogeyman. Does the earth spin off its axis?





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