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Kevin Brown: One of the most underrated pitchers of modern era?
Posted on 6/16/13 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 6/16/13 at 2:58 pm
I think so.
Career statistics:
19 Years (1986-2005), Starting Pitcher
Record: 211-144
ERA: 3.28
WHIP: 1.22
In his only year of HOF eligibility, Brown was listed on only 12 of 581 ballots.
Career statistics:
19 Years (1986-2005), Starting Pitcher
Record: 211-144
ERA: 3.28
WHIP: 1.22
In his only year of HOF eligibility, Brown was listed on only 12 of 581 ballots.
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:00 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:04 pm to LSUtoOmaha
I would agree. Here is an article arguing he should be in the Hall.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:12 pm to The Seaward
Definitely one of the most underrated. John Smoltz robbed him of a Cy Young in 97
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:15 pm to LSUtoOmaha
From a Dodgers fan - one of the most overrated.
He got a fat as frick contract for his work with the mercenary Marlins and short stint with the Padres...
...and then flamed out...when they started to test for roids and he was injured all the time.
I think he's one of the roid guys of the late 90's and became prone to the injury bug from overuse.
He got a fat as frick contract for his work with the mercenary Marlins and short stint with the Padres...
...and then flamed out...when they started to test for roids and he was injured all the time.
I think he's one of the roid guys of the late 90's and became prone to the injury bug from overuse.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:16 pm to Zamoro10
First thing I thought was that the Dodgers didn't underestimate him
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:17 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Pedro Martinez won the NL CY in 97. Neither Smoltz nor Brown were in the top 5 voting.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:22 pm to NorthGAVol
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Pedro Martinez won the NL CY in 97. Neither Smoltz nor Brown were in the top 5 voting.
Must have been 96 or 95 then
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:25 pm to LSUtoOmaha
way to go Kevin.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:27 pm to LSUtoOmaha
He played for the Rangers and was the only pitcher worth a damn. Saw him play when I was younger.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:30 pm to Marines4Auburn
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He played for the Rangers and was the only pitcher worth a damn. Saw him play when I was younger.
trading him was a terrible move by Texas, of course they always (until now) favored bats over arms.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:32 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Was filthy but never sustained success needed for hof
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:38 pm to sms151t
He was a juice monkey
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:38 pm to Zamoro10
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I think he's one of the roid guys of the late 90's and became prone to the injury bug from overuse
Pretty much my impression as well
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:47 pm to Matisyeezy
He was underrated earlier in his career: Rangers, Padres. He sucked tremendously with the Dodgers and Yankees. That was a horrible contract with LA. 100 million I believe. And he was a heavy user, look at pics of him with the Dodgers and you can see the biceps bulging from his uniform. Probably why his HOF numbers are so low
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:48 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Message Posted by PortCityTiger24 He was a juice monkey
This. frick that bastard
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:56 pm to craigbiggio
He slaughtered the Astros in the '98 Division Series along with fricking Sterling Hitchcock.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:57 pm to craigbiggio
I am talking more about national recognition. Nobody thinks of Kevin Brown when they think of very good pitchers of the 90s (due to the Braves trio, Pedro, etc).
Posted on 6/16/13 at 4:03 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Two things hurt his legacy:
ONE. He was a mercenary. Hey, go for the money. It's your life. But the trade off is, no one will love you. There's not a single fanbase arguing his case. You treat the game like a business, the fans will treat you like a businessman.
TWO. He was an incredible f'n jackass. This isn't about the money, this is just about treating everyone like dirt. If you don't make any friends, you won't have any friends.
You need people arguing your case to get in the Hall. Brown has no one willing to do that. It's his bed, he has to lie in it. Next to those huge piles of money.
ONE. He was a mercenary. Hey, go for the money. It's your life. But the trade off is, no one will love you. There's not a single fanbase arguing his case. You treat the game like a business, the fans will treat you like a businessman.
TWO. He was an incredible f'n jackass. This isn't about the money, this is just about treating everyone like dirt. If you don't make any friends, you won't have any friends.
You need people arguing your case to get in the Hall. Brown has no one willing to do that. It's his bed, he has to lie in it. Next to those huge piles of money.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 4:29 pm to craigbiggio
Roider
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