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Trying to buy a Lot and apply for Construction Loan....advice needed

Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:53 am
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:53 am
So I'm in the process of buying a lot and apply for a construction loan.

I may not have time to get an appraisal before I have to close on the lot. So I may have to do them separately and pay closing costs twice, which sucks.

Bank told me I was going to have to put 35% down if closing on just the lot. That seems high to me.

Also, no one has been able to give me information on how much I'll have to put down for the construction loan. Said it would depend on the appraisal. Does anyone have any idea?

Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:11 am to
Can you reserve the lot from seller until you get plans/drawings for construction loan to go to lender with and use construction loan initial draw for lot payment? You could do this with 20% down, pay interest only during construction, and save yourself a closing.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:46 am to
Yeah that's what I'm trying to do. I just have to close by mid June and the bank doesn't know if they will have appraisal done by then.

So your saying 20% down on the entire amount of the loan. So if I borrow $300,000 I need to have $60K down payment? Was hoping to have to put that much down.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:49 am to
You'll probably need another 20% down for construction. When you close on lot, do a no work affidavit and it will save you some money when it comes time for construction. When we built, we needed 30 or 35% down on the lot. We paid on the lot a few years and then needed 20% down on what the plans appraised for.
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:57 am to
You can do an FHA construction loan @ 3.5% down. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't, I build those everyday. Where are you building?
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:01 pm to
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FHA construction loan @ 3.5% down.


Is that something my bank would offer? Or would I need to go through a company specializing in those loans?

Building in Fayetteville.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

Is that something my bank would offer? Or would I need to go through a company specializing in those loans?


You can go through a mortgage broker. FHA is a government insured loan that requires you to pay PMI (Private Mortgage Insurance) when putting less than 20% down. With that $300,000 loan you mentioned, you would pay more than $300 per month on extra for PMI. Are you planning to subcontract the house out yourself or have a contractor do a turnkey build?
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:16 pm to
That is what I am looking at doing, in fact I talked with some Schumacher people today who hooked me up with a lender who has been very helpful today with answering questions on the FHA loan for the lot, construction and final closing on the whole home and lot.

Now if I understand this right, you will have to pay PMI,or you can refinance to maybe a conventional down the line. I may be wrong this is all new to me.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

Now if I understand this right, you will have to pay PMI,or you can refinance to maybe a conventional down the line. I may be wrong this is all new to me


If you keep the FHA loan, you will have to pay PMI for the life of the loan. You can refinance to conventional later on if you'd like.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10362 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:42 pm to
Franktown, you ever dealt with these Huntington National Bank guys? I got the referral through the Schumacher website and there offer is very attractive. Just wondering if you have any insight.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:37 am to
quote:

You can go through a mortgage broker. FHA is a government insured loan that requires you to pay PMI (Private Mortgage Insurance) when putting less than 20% down. With that $300,000 loan you mentioned, you would pay more than $300 per month on extra for PMI. Are you planning to subcontract the house out yourself or have a contractor do a turnkey build?


Oh ok. I'm familiar with FHA and PMI but didn't realize you could apply it to new construction. I have a builder and it's a custom build.

Thing is I don't have 20% right now to get the process started, but when I finish building and roll over into permanent financing I hope to have 20% or very close to it. So the PMI would not even come into play. But I work on commission so their are no 100% guarantees.

But I did hear the new FHA loans, at least for refinancing will PMI for the the life of the loan. Not sure if that would apply here as well.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

You can do an FHA construction loan @ 3.5% down. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't, I build those everyday. Where are you building?


Look at the fees/terms FHA vs conventional, FHA is garbage.

Yes, on conventional you'll need 20% down of house & lot value, 1st draw from construction loan will secure remainder of balance left on lot.

You could see what builder will charge you to do house turnkey. It'll save you a closing, although I always recommend that custom construction its best to control $.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2719 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:00 pm to
Yes, if you are trying to go under 20% down and are not in a flood zone then Tony is my go to guy. Be prepared for lots of paperwork, but that seems to be the case with everyone these days.
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2719 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:02 pm to
Yes conventional is better, but not everyone is plunking down 20%
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Yes conventional is better, but not everyone is plunking down 20%


Sure, but I would pay more for builder to do project turnkey and carry loan than construction to perm FHA.

FHA is garbage
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10362 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:19 am to
Do you happen to know anyone who would do a turnkey construction? Seems like it would be a pretty big risk on the builder if the buyer does not come through.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Do you happen to know anyone who would do a turnkey construction? Seems like it would be a pretty big risk on the builder if the buyer does not come through.


Im in Nashville, I have two contacts in BR, but both are custom 750k and up builders.

Typically builder get 3-5% upfront in contract to do turnkey, so 300k and buyer walks leaves builder 9-15k minimum for his troubles.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 11:39 am
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Do you happen to know anyone who would do a turnkey construction? Seems like it would be a pretty big risk on the builder if the buyer does not come through.


Where are u located? I recently went through the process near Baton Rouge. There are plenty of local custom builders who will allow you to give them a deposit (earnest money) to get started and do a turnkey build. They may already own the lot or they can buy the lot from you and you can close on the entire thing at the end. All they asked for from me was an approval letter up front, me to provide the house plans and the earnest money.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10362 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:19 pm to
I am in Hammond, so 3-10% earnest money upfront should do the trick with most builders?
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