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Why are the Astros so awful?

Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Sparty1
East Lansing
Member since Aug 2011
170 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:13 pm
I'm sitting here watching them play the Tigers, and they look like one of the worst baseball teams I've ever seen. There's a lot of resemblance to the 2003 Tigers, and they were absolutely brutal.

I haven't paid attention to what's been happening with them, but what happened to Houston? Why have they fallen so far?
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
107737 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:14 pm to
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I haven't paid attention to what's been happening with them, but what happened to Houston? Why have they fallen so far?

Didn't draft for years. Robbed Peter to pay Paul
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27230 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:16 pm to
We don't spend any money. It's going to be awesome when we can start paying these studs we're drafting though.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:27 pm to
Drayton mclane
Tim Pupura (sp)
Ed wade


In that order.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 9:28 pm
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47121 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:28 pm to
Who cares?

I'm making some $$$!
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41159 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:28 pm to
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Robbed Peter to pay Paul


dead on synopsis
Posted by Atari
Texas
Member since Dec 2009
3716 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:29 pm to
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Didn't draft for years. Robbed Peter to pay Paul


They drafted plenty, but they had a policy of not even trying to sign the players they drafted. Legit just drafted players and didn't sign them.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93693 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:35 pm to
Every clueless poster who thinks the Astros are merely pulling a Cleveland Indians from Major League should read this article and get an idea of the organization's long-term plan and strategy (what people who follow the team already understand).

....or if anyone asking "what's wrong with the Astros....

Here's a spot on article. Couldn't have been written any better.

LINK

Credit: mattz1122
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:41 pm to
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Every clueless poster who thinks the Astros are merely pulling a Cleveland Indians from Major League should read this article and get an idea of the organization's long-term plan and strategy


I don't care what kind of bullshite they've sold you, the owners are pocketing the revenue sharing money at a rate never before seen while claiming they are just "rebuilding", plain and simple.

Maybe that will change in the future, maybe it won't. But don't give me this 10 year plan nonsense when you have no idea how many (if any) of these draftees will pan out. They are gaming the system at baseball and the fanbase's expense and have done such a good job of it that they have actually managed to convince the few Astros fans that still exist that it is somehow a good thing that they are fielding one of the worst teams of all time. It's impressive, really.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12235 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:46 pm to
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I don't care what kind of bullshite they've sold you, the owners are pocketing the revenue sharing money at a rate never before seen while claiming they are just "rebuilding", plain and simple.



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Draconian Sanctions



This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93693 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:50 pm to
Farm system says otherwise.

With the background of Luhnow with the Cards and what he's putting together with Houston, you can believe what you want. There's no money to pocket. They're not winning. There's no one going to the games.

When the ownership ignores the farm system and the big league club, then sure....I'd believe that. But watching how much foundation they've built in the last two years alone, they're headed in the right direction.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:57 pm to
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Farm system says otherwise




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When the ownership ignores the farm system and the big league club, then sure....I'd believe that. But watching how much foundation they've built in the last two years alone, they're headed in the right direction.


And what happens when it's time to pay the ones that actually turn out to be productive major leaguers? Odds are they will trade or not resign them, because that's what owners who sell this kind of bullshite to their fans do.

If you want to see what new owners who actually want to win do, check out what Mark Anastasio did with the Brewers. He actually spent money and guess what, the team became a lot more competitive immediately and the farm system wasn't hurt by it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:57 pm to
why is it hard to believe that after seeing what the nationals were able to build fairly quickly since their move to DC, the astros would try the same? it's the best solution that doesn't involve mortgaging the organization for 1 or 2 star players.
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37900 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:59 pm to
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2003 Tigers
So expect a World Series soon
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:02 pm to
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And what happens when it's time to pay the ones that actually turn out to be productive major leaguers?


if they continue to draft well, you have a replacement waiting. you'll get a few years out before having to shell out
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12235 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:03 pm to
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Farm system says otherwise
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Great point.

quote:

And what happens when it's time to pay the ones that actually turn out to be productive major leaguers? Odds are they will trade or not resign them, because that's what owners who sell this kind of bullshite to their fans do.

Glad you know exactly what Crane / Luhnow are thinking.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66380 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:05 pm to
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Robbed Peter to pay Paul


money
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52746 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52746 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:37 pm to
Didn't you just start following baseball last month? It shows.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66708 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 11:00 pm to
apathetic fanbase



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