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Twelve Revelations from the Benghazi Hearings


Good summary from townhall.com


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(3) Secretaries Clinton and Rice (the president's hand-selected messenger on Benghazi to the American people) repeatedly stated that the attack arose from "spontaneous protests" over an obscure YouTube video. This was never true. Hicks called the YouTube a "non-event" in Libya. He and others on the ground -- including Amb. Stevens -- recognized the raid as a coordinated terrorist attack from the very beginning. Hicks testified that he personally told Sec. Clinton as much at 2 am on the night of the attack, along with her senior staff. [UPDATE - Rep. Trey Gowdy also revealed an email sent on 9/12 in which Assistant Sec. Jones confirmed to a Libyan official that the attack had been carried out by terrorist organization Ansar al-Sharia]. Days later, Rice recited bogus talking points on five American television networks, and Clinton denounced the video while standing next to the flag-draped coffins of the fallen. Hicks said there he never mentioned any "spontaneous demonstrations" related to a video in his phone call with Clinton:

Questions: How, why, and by whom did the administration's talking points get scrubbed and re-written? Why did the president refuse to identify the attack as terrorism in an interview with CBS News on September 12, and why did he allow Sec. Rice to disseminate patently false information on his behalf?


(4) A small, armed US force in Tripoli was told it did not have the authority to deploy to Benghazi in the midst of the attack. Twice. Flight time between the two cities is less than an hour. Members of the would-be rescue contingent were "furious" over this obstruction. The witnesses said they did not know who ultimately gave the "stand down" orders, or why. If it was not the Commander-in-Chief calling the shots, why not, and where was he? Whistle-blower Mark Thompson, a career counter-terrorism official at State, said he called the White House to request the immediate deployment of a Foreign Emergency Support Team (FEST) to Benghazi. He was told it was "not the right time" to do so, then was cut out of the communications loop.

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constant cough
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quote:

Good summary from townhall.com



I can sum it up even shorter than that for the tl;dr crowd:


Obama lied, people died.






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4LSU2
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Obama lied, people died.


I can agree with this.






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matthew25
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So he lied before they were killed? I know you consider him a diety, but com'on man.





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ponger3d
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Shocker, a politician lied to the public to gain a better position. This time, the lied caused people to die.





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TerryDawg03
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Okay:

People died. Obama lied to save his reelection.



This post was edited on 5/9 at 2:33 pm


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CajunAngele
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Townhall will be a TH;DR only media matters,daily Kos and alphabet channels and Wash Post are real news! It is made up if it is not in the MSM.






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udtiger
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Cleveland kidnappings
Arias verdict
That gay NBA journeyman













































Benghazi






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dante
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The only thing the MSM got out the hearings was listening to Hicks give the emotional timeline of events. Other than that the hearings were not newsworthy. If anybody in Washington had any balls they would hold the another round of hearings with the whistle blowers along side Hilary,Susan Rice and the officer who told Thompson to stand down.





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CBLSU316
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If we are going to have these hearing I don't see why Hillary, Rice and others aren't in the room.


Hell get Obama and Biden in there to and lets put this shite to bed.


This whole thing is sickening but honestly the general public does not give two shits about this whole Benghazi fiasco.






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Vegas Bengal
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crawdaddy52
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Canjun it is made up. Have you divorced yourself from reality to the point that if the facts don't jive with your "wish for it to be true" then the entire national press is taking one for this administration. Seriously, are you that wacked. ?





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GumboPot
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It's amazing that Obama and Hillary just while ambassador Stevens and three other Americans where fighting for their lives.

Couldn't they have simply called the Secretary of Defense (at the time it was Leon Panetta) to help out?

Damn, with this administration in charge don't expect much support for our ambassadors and diplomats going forward.






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Choctaw
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Vegas Bengal


you're a sad little man






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matthew25
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Fair point. Why didn't Romney double down on this. Did he realize it didn't make any difference?





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GeauxxxTigers23
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Have you divorced yourself from reality to the point that if the facts don't jive with your "wish for it to be true" then the entire national press is taking one for this administration


Dude, it was a congressional hearing on whether or not the administration was culpable in the deaths of 4 Americans, one of whom was an Ambassador, and whether or not they intentionally lied and covered anything up.

And it is barely being covered. You don't have to be on one side or the other of this issue to atleast admit that it's a major news event.







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matthew25
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They were meeting with Panetta.





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Wolfhound45
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Good article.

My main comment on this debacle is a lack of foresight. Minimum security standards were not met. Increasing intelligence was disregarded. And a significant date was ignored. Bottom line, all involved were not ready for what happened.

I fault the DOS for not being ready. I fault NCA for "blinking" in the midst of a crisis and simply letting events unfold. I fault NCA/DOS for concocting an entirely implausible cover story to attempt to deceive the American public on what happened.

But there was no conspiracy. And the answer as to why the attack happened (were there covert operations taking place in Libya we are not aware of?) has still not been addressed in all of the rush to cast blame.






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NHTIGER
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but honestly the general public does not give two shits about this whole Benghazi fiasco.



Only because they are hearing it's only a Fox news-Republican party issue from all other media sources. The story is not going away and in time the public will give MANY shits about the story.

The "public" didn't give two shits about Watergate the first 8 or 9 months either. It took one revelation in an unrelated congressional hearing to suddenly get everyone's attention and that stone then gathered Moss very quickly as the story unraveled, as it will in this case.






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Choctaw
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Why didn't Romney double down on this. Did he realize it didn't make any difference?


he tried.....and quickly got shouted down by a "debate moderator". which is pretty sad in itself






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