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re: BK says in new interview regarding DT that he isn’t buying players

Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:02 pm to
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You can stand on your morals with this if you want. But when the other schools you're competing for a title with are doing it, you better have a plan in place for how you're gonna close that talent gap to keep up. And it looks like we didn't account for that at all.


None of the DTs we whiffed on are even in the realm of what most would consider to “close the gap” with the big boy 5 star DTs that Bama, UGA, OSU regularly recruit… no one in their right mind was going to pay them the money they wanted except pathetically desperate programs like OU and Miami. Texas, who has the most money to throw around in all of CFB didn’t even want to match what OU was paying. If a Glenn Dorsey like player jumps in the portal, maybe you consider it… but that was not the case
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 8:03 pm
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:13 pm to
To "close the gap" you need depth. LSU has zero depth. Guillory and Lee are below-average players, Shone is unknown, and then you have freshmen who cannot be relied on.

One portal DT wouldn't "close the gap" but two or three would have.

CBK's refusal to play the game is embarrassing and will lead to losses in the fall.

Remember this interview when the dline is being dominated
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94617 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:35 pm to
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BK says in new interview regarding DT that he isn’t buying players
tigerskin


Well then you're going to get left behind and have nothing. What has that approach gotten us at a desperately needed position? Either play the game or get run tf over by those who are willing to.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
15702 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:48 pm to
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*We're not in the market of buying players and unfortunately right now, that's what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought.

Not saying his approach is right or wrong but the mentality of these player wont change. Its the new landscape of college athletics. These players wont look at the long game and will only look for the what can you do for me now, money
Posted by Burkeules
addis
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:13 pm to
I’m not for paying players but I can understand if you came from nothing and your wanted that you would want money. The NFL is not a guarantee. They are just taking advantage of a situation a lot of us would.
Posted by NCaddoTigerfan
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:15 pm to
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Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13047 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:47 pm to
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cause I can only imaging what Underwood’s NIL offer was..



The number 1 player and top QB in a class is worth top dollar. A transfer defensive tackle is not, regardless of his stats.
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:48 pm to
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None of the DTs we whiffed on are even in the realm of what most would consider to “close the gap” with the big boy 5 star DTs that Bama, UGA, OSU regularly recruit… no one in their right mind was going to pay them the money they wanted except pathetically desperate programs like OU and Miami. Texas, who has the most money to throw around in all of CFB didn’t even want to match what OU was paying. If a Glenn Dorsey like player jumps in the portal, maybe you consider it… but that was not the case


I agree with this, but...Oklahoma and Miami were desperate because, like us, they mismanaged the DT position. CBK should have never let us get into a position where we were reliant on the second spring portal to bail us out. The second spring portal is full of processed guys and depth players who are looking for a payday like they matter.

So for CBK to turn around and say, "I'm not going to play that game" when he put us in position to have to play that game is concerning.

We are where we are. Our DL room is the worst it's been in two decades. Bo will have to earn his paycheck this year. Let's hope McKinley is a stud and hope the coaches redouble our efforts on the 2025 class and get some studs (so far 0 DT commitments but it's early).

Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13047 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:49 pm to
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Ask yourselves what our record would have been the last two years without transfers



And I doubt we overpaid for any of them (especially JD5 given that he single handedly made our last two seasons)
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13047 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Oh well. He better go out there and still find a way to win.


He’s had 2 good back to back season with a completely devastated roster left by the previous jackass. I think BK knows what he’s doing.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13047 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:55 pm to
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Bo was hired for a reason. Any questions hit me on the celly


Once again, Cap knows what’s up. We are all good.

Even if we had gotten any of the previous DTs from the portal, we would still not likely had been ready to make a run at a championship this year. No need to blow tons of money on a season you likely aren’t going to win a championship in. We are building for a run next year.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13047 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:03 pm to
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Not saying his approach is right or wrong but the mentality of these player wont change. Its the new landscape of college athletics. These players wont look at the long game and will only look for the what can you do for me now, money


And if there had been any DTs worth spending that kind of money on, BK would have.

A stud QB in the portal in understandable. There is only one QB that gets any significant playing time on a team in a given year.

It’s highly unlikely that a superstar at any other position that would be worthy of substantial money is in the portal. Not saying there can’t be some good players at other positions but it’s unlikely you are getting the “Joe Burrow” or “JD5” caliber defensive tackles in the portal.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26695 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:32 pm to
I loved seeing this. Weed out the "only here for instant money" people.

This is what I tell all the people against it;

LSU
5* Maason Smith 2nd round
3* Jordan Jefferson, 4th round
3* Mekhi Wingo, 6th round (left early)

Bo Davis
4* (just barely. 49th ranked DL) Byron Murphy 1st round
3* T'Vondre Sweat 2nd round

Now for any of these dudes looking at the open spots available, looking at the drafts pick this recent draft, and getting a major one year payday, likely north of 500k, it was 110% about upfront money for them. Miami just turned a 5 star into an UDFA. Miami's DL coach has not had a DT drafted at Oregon or Miami (that's 17-21 and 22-23). Neither of these two schools have had a DL recruit drafted the past 2 classes, and none are projected as a draft pick for this upcoming draft (before Damonic).



If you went to Miami for the big money, scenery and the house they put you in, so be it. If you want to go for the insane money Oklahoma is giving you, so be it.

Davis has molded DL for a long time. Made several 3 star guys into draft picks. We are going to be great going forward.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27313 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:45 pm to
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None of the DTs we whiffed on are even in the realm of what most would consider to “close the gap” with the big boy 5 star DTs that Bama, UGA, OSU regularly recruit… no one in their right mind was going to pay them the money they wanted except pathetically desperate programs like OU and Miami. Texas, who has the most money to throw around in all of CFB didn’t even want to match what OU was paying. If a Glenn Dorsey like player jumps in the portal, maybe you consider it… but that was not the case


Some people on here really thought if lsu landed demonic Williams then lsu would be in the championship picture.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26695 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:48 pm to
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let's see if OSU, Bama, Ole Miss, OU, Miami, FSU, Oregon etc. have horrible seasons because their locker rooms were all in turmoil over the transfer guys and their paychecks.

You can stand on your morals with this if you want. But when the other schools you're competing for a title with are doing it, you better have a plan in place for how you're gonna close that talent gap to keep up.

And it looks like we didn't account for that at all.
This is literally forest for the trees logic. You idiots will see soon enough. Wonder how much Michigan paid to beat Bama, Ohio St, and Washington for a championship though?

FSU just lost their entire team and had to recruit an entire team again in the portal. You think that's sustainable?

OU will be lucky to go 8-4 this year paying a kid 1.5 mill to play DT.

Ole Miss is shooting their shot for one year, if they don't make the playoffs, they've just wasted millions. All those kids are gone after this year, and their recruiting is poo. Have fun remaking a roster in the portal again.

Miami "could" do something this year, but I'm personally not seeing an elite program going forward.

LSU's 2026 DL could legitimately be

DE Reliford 3rd year
DT McKinley 3rd year
DT Stewart 1st year
DE Jackson 3rd year

Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26695 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:55 pm to
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One portal DT wouldn't "close the gap" but two or three would have.
They all want a million plus incentives. Miami dude was rumored to have a condo or something like that. How the hell can you spend 2.5-3 million on the DT position of 3 ONE YEAR RENTALS, which is probably close to 90% of all the other players' combined payouts?

Look man, give us a couple mill so we can afford to waste money on one and dones who are nowhere near a sure thing. Nobody is expecting any of these guys to make us a top 5 DL, and even 3 of them together wouldn't make us elite.

I love BK's process on this. It aligns with what makes sense to me and people that don't need instant gratification.
Posted by deepdeltatiger
Myrtle Grove
Member since Aug 2007
928 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:15 am to
Or he sweaks his knee in the first game and has to sit out the season? The ROI is bad!
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
104 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:37 am to
Once again BK's point seems be going straight over your head. Again, he's saying don't come to LSU if you want only money. If you want to be developed, go to the next stage of your life in NFL, possibly gain a championship, play in one of the best environments, AND GET PAID then LSU is the place for you. It's that simple. He couldn't make it anymore clear.


If all you're looking for is a quick payday cya. Do you think LSU's recruiting classes are coming cheap to LSU?
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
76 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:48 am to
I wouldn't listen to anyone who goes by OJ'S Life Coach.
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
76 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:54 am to
Already seen that with Maason Smith.
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