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re: Draft Picks Review
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:18 pm to landrywasbeast30
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:18 pm to landrywasbeast30
true.
I'm looking forward to see what he does nonetheless. His size will command a lot of double teams and keep the inside backers clean.
I'm looking forward to see what he does nonetheless. His size will command a lot of double teams and keep the inside backers clean.
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:22 pm to bonethug0108
Are you going to make me all the research for your argument?
NT are not expected to rush the passer. They're expected to take on multiple blocks and free opportunities up for the linebackers. No one is expecting Bunkley or Jenkins to rack the sacks up. I guarantee you'll see Hicks in the NT spot in passing situations and the starting NT come out
NT are not expected to rush the passer. They're expected to take on multiple blocks and free opportunities up for the linebackers. No one is expecting Bunkley or Jenkins to rack the sacks up. I guarantee you'll see Hicks in the NT spot in passing situations and the starting NT come out
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:42 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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NT are not expected to rush the passer.
That's not ALWAYS true though.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:48 pm to blueslover
Idk what year he graduates but that 6'7" 275 pound that runs 4.6/4.7 Irish/ German dude from SMU looks like a pretty damn good prospect to look at!!! DE at SMU check him out!!! Perfect for the 3/4 IMO I mean perfect, prob will be a 1st rounder though
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:52 pm to Hoodoo Man
Again people who think a one gap nose is the same as a two gap nose.
Ratliff, Bunkley, Kris Jenkins, Hicks. Those guys get off their blocks and head up field. Cody, our Jenkins, Wilfork. Those guys are two gap block holders.
Ryan runs a one gap and Bunkley will be the starter. Jenkins will rotate in from time to time, especially against teams with good backs.
Ratliff, Bunkley, Kris Jenkins, Hicks. Those guys get off their blocks and head up field. Cody, our Jenkins, Wilfork. Those guys are two gap block holders.
Ryan runs a one gap and Bunkley will be the starter. Jenkins will rotate in from time to time, especially against teams with good backs.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:58 pm to BayouBengal99
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Idk what year he graduates but that 6'7" 275 pound that runs 4.6/4.7 Irish/ German dude from SMU looks like a pretty damn good prospect to look at!!! DE at SMU check him out!!! Perfect for the 3/4 IMO I mean perfect, prob will be a 1st rounder though
I can only imagine you are talking about Margus Hunt. He got drafted on Friday.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:00 pm to bonethug0108
If he will be used that little I would be surprised at the price we paid a bit. Ivory and two 4th rounders.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:00 pm to GOON
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I can only imagine you are talking about Margus Hunt. He got drafted on Friday.
That's what I thinking.
Dude is old and definitely was not a first rounder.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:08 pm to goatmilker
I didn't say he would be used very little, especially given our recent history against the run.
I'm just saying he won't be the starter. Most 3rd rounders aren't expected to be (at least not year one). That's where
you get your role players/future potential starters.
I'm just saying he won't be the starter. Most 3rd rounders aren't expected to be (at least not year one). That's where
you get your role players/future potential starters.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:45 pm to Hoodoo Man
Hunt will be a beast. He is a freak athlete.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:46 pm to blueslover
C- draft until John Jenkins. Then it became a B+ draft.
Overall it was good for the Saints.
Overall it was good for the Saints.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:49 pm to DoubleDown
Armstead was a hell of a pick IMO
The UDFAs might be my favorite out of sheer potential/production that could come from Chase Thomas and Kevin Reddick
The UDFAs might be my favorite out of sheer potential/production that could come from Chase Thomas and Kevin Reddick
Posted on 4/28/13 at 6:59 pm to CocoLoco
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Hunt will be a beast. He is a freak athlete.
I'll admit Hunt does look the part of a future Hall of Famer, but I saw two videos that made me think he is less than ordinary.
SMU vs Tex Am: Hunt vs Luke Joeckel You could make a case that these are Luke Joeckel's highlights. #92 Hunt was non-existent.
Now you might say "Not fair, that was against Joeckel".
Well, I then saw clips of him against Tulane and their senior RT #79 Eric Jones (rated 999 out of 112 OT's) and he gets handled like an NFL camp body would. LINK
I could be wrong, but based on those highlights, I would not be shocked if he is cut in preseason THIS year.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:19 pm to DoubleDown
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C- draft until John Jenkins.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:50 pm to bonethug0108
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Bunkley, Kris Jenkins
Jenkins was a prototypical NT space eater. Bunkley has never really played NT, and is known as a run stuffer and horrible interior pass rusher. I just don't know where you are getting this stuff from.
You are basing all of this off of one guy(Ratliff) who was put in that spot because Dallas had no one else. Ratliff is not the kind of guy 3-4 teams look for to play NT. I think you are over thinking this and trying to show how much smarter you are than everyone else. The guys who can do both at NT tend to be special players like Ngata and sometimes Shaun Rogers.
You are going off of standards that really only one other player in the league lives up to. And the funny thing is, that guy was moved to DE because of his ability to rush the passer, and more traditional NT's have been put in that spot lol.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:58 pm to LSUFreek
He is one of those guys that doesn't stop on plays. He is SUPER raw, but he has a lot of natural talent and ability. He also has hardly played any ball, so he hasn't come close to scratching the surface. IF the guy can learn to play below his pads more (which is the biggest problem in the clips vs Joekel), he can be a star. I think the guy has a great chance to do so. Fill in with white football player stereotypes: high motor, doesn't give up, deceptive speed, plays a lot like Wes Welker.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:01 pm to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:10 pm to bonethug0108
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bonethug0108
There is one huge whole in your theory of trying to tell us what Rob Ryan runs. Well 2 huge holes if you count the fact that Bunkley doesn't fit the type of player you are talking about. Why did the Saints trade Ivory, then 2 fourth rounders, to move up to draft a 360 pound guy if he doesn't fit what Ryan wants? Either you know what Ryan wants more than he does, or he had absolutely no say in who the Saints drafted to fit his defense?
Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:15 pm to goatmilker
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Ivory and two 4th rounders.
It wasn't Ivory AND 2 4th rounders. If was essentially Ivory and 1 4th round pick.
Ivory traded for pick 106 from the Jets.
Pick 106 and pick 109 traded to Miami for pick 82.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:21 pm to CocoLoco
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He is SUPER raw....He also has hardly played any ball, so he hasn't come close to scratching the surface
I'll give you that. Who knows. Time will tell, I guess.
It just reminded me of when we drafted Al Woods. Everybody here that's followed his career at LSU pretty much boo-hooed the pick as you would expect, but I tried to stay optimistic since he was now a Saint and thought, well, you can't teach height and size, maybe 3GW could do something with his tools that I'd been aware of since his 5-star status coming out of HS.
I went and re-looked at Woods' highlight reel on You Tube and the highest rated comment was "You call these highlights?" I thought the same thing when I saw Margus Hunt's videos.
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