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re: Matt Flynn traded to Raiders for two picks
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:30 pm to Doc Fenton
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:30 pm to Doc Fenton
Yes. You don't know what you're talking about. Even stating that Flynn was the better QB is ignorant when you actually look at the stats. Saying Russell didn't care or whatever is just stupid. If he were white I'm sure you wouldn't be saying the same thing. You probably had your lips wrapped around Lee's dick in 2011.
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Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:30 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Yeah, well that's obviously because Russell had an inferior supporting cast on offense. 
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:31 pm to Lonnie4LSU
JR played like shite against UF no doubt
The AU loss was 100% on the coaching staff, they went in with the worst offensive gameplan ever
The AU loss was 100% on the coaching staff, they went in with the worst offensive gameplan ever
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:32 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
Yes. You don't know what you're talking about. Even stating that Flynn was the better QB is ignorant when you actually look at the stats. Saying Russell didn't care or whatever is just stupid. If he were white I'm sure you wouldn't be saying the same thing. You probably had your lips wrapped around Lee's dick in 2011.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:33 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Fenton told me 2007 was the better team. The one that lost to Kentucky and Arkansas at home. At least JR only choked against top 10 teams on the road.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:34 pm to Doc Fenton
no I'm not mad.... you're just not very bright. And that's ok. You're on the same level as TIGRLEE on this board. A little on the Klany side.
This post was edited on 3/31/13 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:36 pm to BilJ
I think the Jimbo argument is legit, by the way.
Russell did play well against Auburn, and yet LSU scored only 3 points, which was crazy. But even in that case, the argument is still that Russell didn't produce as much at QB because of the coaching, which might be a legit excuse... but it's still an excuse.
Your argument in that case is still about what Russell could have done if the offense had been coached differently. I have no problem with anybody making that argument. It might be true.
Russell did play well against Auburn, and yet LSU scored only 3 points, which was crazy. But even in that case, the argument is still that Russell didn't produce as much at QB because of the coaching, which might be a legit excuse... but it's still an excuse.
Your argument in that case is still about what Russell could have done if the offense had been coached differently. I have no problem with anybody making that argument. It might be true.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:38 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
no I'm not mad.... you're just not very bright. And that's ok. You're on the same level as TIGRLEE on this board. A little on the Klany side.
Why is this basis for all your arugments?
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:38 pm to Doc Fenton
Your posting history on this site
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:38 pm to jimithing11
These lizard fans that claim JR "didn't care" and was "inaccurate" are truly sad people who have an underlying bias against him.
The coach these lizards fans love (Miles) picked JR over Flynn.
The coach these lizard fans "hate" (fear; Saban) picked JR over Flynn.
The coach these lizards fans love (Miles) picked JR over Flynn.
The coach these lizard fans "hate" (fear; Saban) picked JR over Flynn.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:46 pm to Hollywood
I don't get it.
Why is it universally acknowledged after JR quit the Raiders that he didn't have his heart in the game, but yet take that logic to his time at LSU, and somehow you're a bad person?
I said it when he was at LSU, and it was proved correct later on. I never said he was a bad person. I never said he had the equivalent of Jefferson's character problems. I just said he didn't seem to care that much about being at LSU, which looking back, how can you even deny that?
It's frustrating as a fan to have your star player be that cool to your program. Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't. It certainly doesn't make him a bad person in any way, and that's why the Jefferson thing is a totally different type of situation.
Am I morally repulsed by what happened at LSU during Jefferson's time here? Yeah, I sort of am. Call me "Klansy" all you want, but I call it like I see it, and what I saw from Miles & company during that time turned my stomach and made me turn against the whole program. So be it.
Why is it universally acknowledged after JR quit the Raiders that he didn't have his heart in the game, but yet take that logic to his time at LSU, and somehow you're a bad person?
I said it when he was at LSU, and it was proved correct later on. I never said he was a bad person. I never said he had the equivalent of Jefferson's character problems. I just said he didn't seem to care that much about being at LSU, which looking back, how can you even deny that?
It's frustrating as a fan to have your star player be that cool to your program. Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't. It certainly doesn't make him a bad person in any way, and that's why the Jefferson thing is a totally different type of situation.
Am I morally repulsed by what happened at LSU during Jefferson's time here? Yeah, I sort of am. Call me "Klansy" all you want, but I call it like I see it, and what I saw from Miles & company during that time turned my stomach and made me turn against the whole program. So be it.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:48 pm to Doc Fenton
I think you're fricking stupid if you think Russell didn't care when he was here. Guys who don't care don't have spectacular comebacks and play the QB position better than anyone else has at LSU in 20 years...
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:50 pm to Doc Fenton
I just think people are letting his pro career cloud their perception of JR's time here. I can't really think of any times I seriously thought he wasn't giving his all out there.
The NFL requires frick loads upon frick loads of more focus to hack it there, so I don't think him not putting in the effort there means he didn't here. He just didn't have it to take it to that next level you need
The NFL requires frick loads upon frick loads of more focus to hack it there, so I don't think him not putting in the effort there means he didn't here. He just didn't have it to take it to that next level you need
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:52 pm to Elleshoe
I'm not saying that he wasn't competitive and didn't want to win. I'm just saying that I don't think he cared very much about LSU.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:54 pm to Doc Fenton
I think you are wrong.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:57 pm to BilJ
quote:
I can't really think of any times I seriously thought he wasn't giving his all out there.
I'm not saying that he was half-assing it on the field, so much as I'm saying that he did lack in preparation and had some terrible habits that he could get away with due to sheer talent. That much was obvious in 2004, although it was mostly forgotten by 2006, when he really did get much better at everything.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:00 pm to Doc Fenton
Do you think Lee prepared well off the field? If so, why? And what about Mettenberger?
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:00 pm to Doc Fenton
Explain how he didn't care about LSU?
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:00 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:Jimbo Fisher says you're wrong:
I'm saying that he did lack in preparation
quote:
His work ethic for us — everything I ever asked him to do, he did. He was smart, he carried three and four play packages at the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 3/31/13 at 4:08 pm to JBeam
How do I explain how somebody doesn't care?
Did he seem excited to be at LSU to you? I know he's shy, and maybe it's just his personality to look sedated all the time. Maybe he had David Woodley syndrome, and I misread it as arrogant aloofness. But, come on, the dude definitely has ambivalent feelings about the game of football.
Did he seem excited to be at LSU to you? I know he's shy, and maybe it's just his personality to look sedated all the time. Maybe he had David Woodley syndrome, and I misread it as arrogant aloofness. But, come on, the dude definitely has ambivalent feelings about the game of football.
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