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Someone buy my HTPC so I can build something new

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I like the wink at the end. It's like he knows...





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I would have bought some of those things a few hours ago...





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Then he could have shipped those cards with the parts.





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If I break it up I am keeping the SSD and GPU.





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I would have bought the CPU at least but I paid for a 4770k and mobo already





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What are the specs to your computer?



The 280x I'm selling was just used for mining for a few months (never exceeded 70C). It was never part of my main build for gaming.

Main build:
CPU: i7-4770k
Mobo: MSI Z87 MPower
GPUs: 2 x Sapphire R9-290s
Mem: 16GB (2 x 8GB) GSkill Ripjaws X 2133Mhz CL9
PSU: Seasonic X-1250 PSU
Case: Corsair 900D
Plus a few HDDs, 256GB Samsung 830 SSD, and shitload of water cooling gear.



That pic was taken before I upgraded 7970s to the 290s.







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I sold those 7970s today, finally





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VABuckeye
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What are everyone's thoughts on the next iteration of Intel CPUs due out this fall (I believe)?





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Haswell-E? Slightly more excited about them since a new chipset (and DDR4) comes with it.





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I read that you won't need to delid because they are using solder.





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How would I go about upgrading my CPU in the future? Would I have to get a completely new motherboard or would I be able to just switch the old one out with the new?





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You can switch the old with the new as long as the mb supports it





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VABuckeye
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Haswell-E?


Yes. Current build is based on a 3770k. I'm just itching to do a new build but I want a solid performance increase from it. Although I'd love to go out and just do a new build right now I want it to make (at least some) sense.






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ILikeLSUToo
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The "Extreme/Enthusiast" platform has always used solder, but have a lower success rate with big overclocks.

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Yes. Current build is based on a 3770k. I'm just itching to do a new build but I want a solid performance increase from it. Although I'd love to go out and just do a new build right now I want it to make (at least some) sense.


I am strongly considering making the jump to socket 2011-3 and sticking with the enthusiast platform (and upgrading CPU/mobo far less frequently).

Big issue is cost. The mobo/cpu combo is significantly pricier. There are no low-mid end options.

The enthusiast platform has 3 main options for consumer CPUs -- the lowest end usually matches the mainstream flagship i7 (3770k, 4770k, etc.) in both performance and cost (give or take 5%, depending on application), having the same number of cores with maybe a few extra perks (more l3 cache).

Second option is generally the preferred option -- extra physical cores, even more l2 and l3 cache, and price tag somewhere between $500 and $600 (e.g., 4930K).

Third option is the ridiculous X-branded CPU (e.g., 4960x). $1,000 for about a 5% gain over the second option.

However, Haswell-E is particularly interesting because their entry-level CPU (5820K) will have 6 cores instead of 4, 15MB L3, 3.3GHz base clock. Expected to cost 300-350. The next tier up is not much different in specs. Just a higher base clock (3.5Ghz). Pretty well matches the $1000 4960X in terms of specs, but likely to be the $500-600 option. The only 8-core i7 we'll see in Haswell-E is the 5960X, and I'm sure it will be $1,000 again.

The entry-level CPU is a much more attractive option this time, since the physical cores are the most important feature. The 200Mhz disparity is nothing. Wouldn't be surprised if both the 5930K and 5820K have similar frequency, voltage, and thermal walls in terms of overclocking, since they're obviously the same chip.

Looks like the focus is on making the flagship enthusiast CPU look more like a flagship, being the only i7 with 8 cores and therefore an actually attractive option for the wealthy extremists.

Still, even if you go with the entry-level CPU for $350, you're still spending $200 minimum on the motherboard (more realistically $250-300 on a newly released chipset if you want above-standard overclocking stability). Then there's the DDR4, which will also be brand new and therefore expensive. Take the price of a standard 2133MHz quad-channel DDR3 kit, and add 30-50% to that. So, if you make the jump to Haswell-E as an early adopter, it'll be around $800 for the 5820k, decent motherboard, and a 16GB quad-channel DDR4 kit. I think I'll wait a year.



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ILikeLSUToo
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How would I go about upgrading my CPU in the future? Would I have to get a completely new motherboard or would I be able to just switch the old one out with the new?


If you're going with the i5-4690K, by the time any upgrade would be worthwhile/noticeable, socket 1150 will have long been EOL. Intel switches sockets on its mainstream platform every 2 years, and 1150 has been around for a year. The next CPU we'll see on that socket is Broadwell. At that point, you could spend $300-350 on the i7 and flash your mobo bios to support it if necessary, but you won't see a worthwhile performance boost in gaming. It would just be an upgrade for the hell of it. My upgrade pattern has generally been to upgrade with the succession of each socket, which is still far too often but obviously I'm not doing it out of necessity (unless you count crippling addiction as justification).






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upgrade with the succession of each socket, which is still far too often


Yes, that is far too often! Who would ever want to change that much






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Seriously, is coyote OK?





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ILikeLSUToo
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It shows that he was last online at overclock.net just over a day ago, but he hasn't posted there in over a month either. He's probably just busy with work, bored with the GB, and/or bored with gaming/PCs in general because nothing exciting is happening right now.





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Nvidia needs to drop a new line of cards. He will show back up.





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