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re: Falcons owner/Atlanta mayor to make a major announcement in an hour

Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59078 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:37 pm to
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While this is true, the cost to me will be minimal as I live in neither the City of Atlanta nor unincorporated Fulton County


It won't cost me anything since I live 3 states west, I still think it's wrong in general for taxpayers to subisdize billionaires and millionaires.

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I do have a soul and refuse to live OTP.


what is the OTP
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:40 pm to
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It won't cost me anything since I live 3 states west, I still think it's wrong in general for taxpayers to subisdize billionaires and millionaires.


Georgia taxpayers are not subsidizing anything. The only money that the city of Atlanta is contributing is from a hotel/motel tax. Blank and the Falcons are paying 800 million plus the cost of any logistics are far as streets and things go.

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what is the OTP


Outside the Perimeter.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:52 pm to
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Outside the Perimeter.


It is Atlantan for "the burbs"
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59078 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:54 pm to
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Georgia taxpayers are not subsidizing anything. The only money that the city of Atlanta is contributing is from a hotel/motel tax


Which is it? These 2 sentences contradict. If they Taxpayers aren't subsidizing anything, then there would be NO TAX contribution. Using a hotel/motel tax because only "out of towners" pay it is splitting hairs and not all together true. It's a way for politicians to claim a free lunch, we'll have those guys over there pay for it. It's BS and it's nothing but cronyism. A billionaire who built a business will not benefit at the expense of tax payers, whether the people in Fulton Co or Atlanta proper think they are paying for it or not.

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Blank and the Falcons are paying 800 million plus the cost of any logistics are far as streets and things go.


That's better, than many, but if they can afford to kick in 800M they should be able to fund the whole thing.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64122 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:03 pm to
Congrats on the new stadium.
































































For Brees to poop on.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:10 pm to
I agree with the sentiment that tax payers shouldn't subsidize stadiums and whatnot.

My point was in response to the OTP person who thinks that his living outside of the perimeter prevents him from being taxed for this stadium.

Oh, and if you come to Atlanta for an LSU game and stay at a hotel, you're helping to fund the stadium.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 3:12 pm
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3113 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:21 pm to
Whole thing is ridiculous and excessively wasteful. Georgia Dome is fine (and yes, I've been there multiple times).

People need to get their facts straight though, Blank/Falcons are putting up most of the money, but IMO the fact that any of it is coming from taxes is ridiculous.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29120 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:28 pm to
Awesome, an OTP/ITP bitch thread.

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People need to get their facts straight though, Blank/Falcons are putting up most of the money, but IMO the fact that any of it is coming from taxes is ridiculous.



So did the Dome.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:32 pm to
How much of cowboys stadium was paid for by the county vs Jerry Jones???
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:33 pm to
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Whole thing is ridiculous and excessively wasteful. Georgia Dome is fine (and yes, I've been there multiple times).


I agree, the GA dome opened just over 20 years ago. I'm curious when the Braves will start clamoring for a new stadium.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83346 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:38 pm to
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lol the first caller to talk about the stadium on the local sports radio: "Well there ain't no new stadium gonna get me to go to a Falcons game in no crime-ridden area I tell you what.



Arthur Blank needs to hire this guy to patrol the grounds

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125395 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66892 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:05 pm to
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How much of cowboys stadium was paid for by the county vs Jerry Jones???



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In order to finance construction of the $1.15 billion stadium, Arlington voters approved a $325 million bond in November 2004 that raises the city's sales tax by a half-cent, hotel occupancy tax by 2 percent and car rental tax by 5 percent. The NFL contributed $150 million towards the stadium with the Cowboys paying the remaining amount.


LINK
Posted by DriveByBBQ
Willard's Garage
Member since Jan 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:14 pm to
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How much of cowboys stadium was paid for by the county vs Jerry Jones???



I'm not sure but when I went out there for the Michigan game this year all the locals made sure to bitch about it...

"we paid the taxes and can't afford a ticket" seemed to be the theme...
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:26 pm to
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don't recall the 'Aints attendance being all that great before your lonely little Super Bowl season.



You do realize the Saints have sold out every season since 2006 and one of the largest waiting lists for tickers in the league.

Congrats on the new digs. I was at the SEC championship in 2011. For only being 20 something years old it was really unimpressive. Of course my only other road games were Jerry World and BDS and the BCSCG in Nola
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54043 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29120 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:33 pm to
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Congrats on the new digs. I was at the SEC championship in 2011. For only being 20 something years old it was really unimpressive. Of course my only other road games were Jerry World and BDS and the BCSCG in Nola


The Dome is great but it is starting to show its age in terms of layout, and five years from now isn't the worst time to open a new facility. I wonder what the response to a new stadium would've been if Blank didn't push the GWCC to get rid of the old "Miami Vice" color scheme:





Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:43 pm to
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I live about as ITP as one can get


Lets hit up Der Biergarten!
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:46 pm to
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it was really unimpressive


It was built for the Olympics. Luckily they made Turner field into a great baseball stadium from the Olympic stadium, but couldnt do shite to transform the Dome into a good football stadium.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:48 pm to
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I'm curious when the Braves will start clamoring for a new stadium.


Really the only problem with Turner field is the location. They are looking at plans to put in tons of bars and restaurants in right next to the stadium which would help a TON. Turner field has a classic design to it which I personally love.
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