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re: Alex Smith trade completed - traded to Chiefs

Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by deathvalleyjunkie
Baton Rouge
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2016 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:28 pm to
San fran has 11 picks now in this years draft
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:30 pm to
No we have 15 or 16
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5871 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:33 pm to
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No we have 15 or 16

Sounds like someone is going after Revis
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:34 pm to
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I seriously figured SF would, at best, get a sixth-rounder in return for Smith



yeah, that's a bad assumption. The Matt Cassell, Kevin Kolb, and Matt Schaub deals speak to the value of a QB being something like what the Chiefs had to give up
Posted by lemonheads25
COVINGTON
Member since Nov 2011
223 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:44 pm to
This is the best move the Chiefs could make. Cassel and Quinn are God awful. The Chiefs have a squad but no QB. No Rookies relevant to waste the #1 pick on, and definitely not looking at trying to develop them.

The Chiefs are contenders immediately with this addition. I don't mind giving up the #34 pick for a proven QB who will do his role and not F#ck up like Cassel did constantly. This draft isn't that deep and now the Chiefs can use their top pick on a legit OL.

I think the 49ers are going to package this #34 pick to acquire Revis.

Many forget the progress Alex Smith has made. The #1 overall pick, and has had 8 Offensive Coordinators in his career. Harbaugh coached him and Now Andy Reid will have him throwing to D. Bowe and Baldwin constantly with Charles hitting home runs.

Plus look at Alex Smith's character after this year. He was leading the league in % and gets a concussion. Loses his job and still supported the team with Class. I would say his very motivated to prove he is better then what he was his first couple years.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115491 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:46 pm to
In this league, if you don't have a good QB, it doesn't matter what the rest of your squad is. You're done, over.

This year is bad in terms of Draft and FA QBs. The Chiefs made the right move...do what you have to do to get a good QB, and Smith IS a good QB.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112265 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:50 pm to
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Chiefs are contenders immediately with this addition


Um no.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22471 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:50 pm to
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This is the best move the Chiefs could make. Cassel and Quinn are God awful. The Chiefs have a squad but no QB. No Rookies relevant to waste the #1 pick on, and definitely not looking at trying to develop them.



Maybe so, but most of the QBs sucked at the combine, while other players moved up. The QBs will naturally fall now. KC could have gotten a steal at No. 33.

You really think Barkley couldn't do what Smith will do? They traded for Smith to manage games, because that's what he is. They didn't sign him to air it out. Charles and the running game is their offense.

Barkley is probably an average QB, but seems like he could be smart enough to manage games and make throws when needed
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52746 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:52 pm to
Just like Joe Montana.
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:57 pm to
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The Chiefs are contenders immediately with this addition.


Kill yosef. Smith is the most play-it-safest QB ever. So much so he got benched completing what 70% of his passes. Sure its an upgrade, but a 2nd? Thats nuts. I'd rather Smith.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33704 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:02 pm to
its not the worst deal ever. Kevin Kolb to the Cardinals for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and a second round pick was a bigger goof.

Kolb hadn't proved shite, at least Smith managed to get his team to a NFC Championship game. And he certainly wasn't the reason they lost that game either.
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33922 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Kill yosef. Smith is the most play-it-safest QB ever. So much so he got benched completing what 70% of his passes. Sure its an upgrade, but a 2nd? Thats nuts. I'd rather Smith.



And it's not just a typical second round pick. It's the first pick of the second round which is pretty much like a late first round pick. I would have understood the Chiefs trading away their third round pick but giving away their second is way too steep.
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 1:08 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:07 pm to
I think Walter Football analyzed it pretty well.

LINK

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Jim Harbaugh is a genius. . . . It was obvious though that Smith would never lead the 49ers to a Super Bowl because of his limitations. That's why Harbaugh made the obvious choice to go with Colin Kaepernick.

Well, it was obvious to everyone except the Chiefs. This is an absolutely terrible trade for them. Smith, without Harbaugh, is a pedestrian signal-caller at best. He'll regress without Harbaugh, just as Matt Cassel did when he lost Charlie Weis. Andy Reid has been good with quarterbacks, but he's no Harbaugh.


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Based on PFCentral's report, I gave the Chiefs a C when it was speculated they gave up a third-rounder for Smith. But a second this year and a mid-rounder next year? What a joke. Again Harbaugh deserves all of the credit for duping a team into thinking that Smith is a solid starter. He's not. Andy Reid must have lost his mind.


I mean, there are plenty of QBs that can be coached to do the safest throw every play. He really doesn't bring anything amazing to the table to justify this. Brandon Marshall was only two 3rd round picks. I can't really comprehend spending #34 and a conditional middle rounder next year for Alex Smith (at 8.5 million this year).
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:07 pm to
Wohooo


15 picks this year. NFL draft will be as exciting as ever.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45566 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:07 pm to
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Nice move. Smith isn't great but he is a good game-managing QB. It's not like KC needs to go 14-2 in the AFC West. 10-6 can win the division. 


Did Peyton retire or something?
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:24 pm to
ESPN was too busy talking about Danica to report this...
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22471 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:30 pm to
How old is Peyton manning.....?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:46 pm to
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What about Matt Flynn?


that didn't take long
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:51 pm to
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No surprise. This was imminent the moment Reid was hired.



bad front office deals
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66891 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:58 pm to
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I can't really comprehend spending #34 and a conditional middle rounder next year for Alex Smith (at 8.5 million this year).


And Smith is in the final year of his contract. How much guaranteed money are they going to have throw at him in a new deal. Bob Sugar must be licking his chops.
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