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Would people be willing to work


if, instead of being money, the reward would be the knowledge that your needs would be met by people in the same situation as you?( not being rewarded with money)?

Ex: John Smith is a carpenter. People receive his goods from him for free. John Smith needs some wood. The woodcutter is willing to give John wood because he knows any goods he requires will be given to him for free. The woodcutter needs something to eat. The chef is willing to give the woodcutter something to eat for free because he knows that if he needs any goods, he will be given them for free.

In other words, knowledge that you will receive goods replaces knowledge that you will receive money as the incentive to work.

Thoughts on this ideal society?

It differs from Communism in the fact that there is no central planning of who does what. If one wants to be a carpenter, he can become a carpenter. If one wants to fish, he can become a fisherman.







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SmackoverHawg
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F$%k my needs. What about my wants?





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joshnorris14
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Where would the capital structure come from? This seems like such a limiting society where only extremely short term wants can be satisfied.





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The Easter Bunny
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I'm a scientist doing basic research. Who's going to give me lasers, vacuum equipment, etc?





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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Where would the capital structure come from?
There would be no material capital. Currency and monetary exchange would be replaced by people having the knowledge that, if they needs goods in the future, they can do the same thing to people what said people are doing to them now.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Who's going to give me lasers, vacuum equipment, etc?
people who make lasers and vacuum equipment. They would provide you with these things because they know that if they ever require a good, they will receive it for free.






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joshnorris14
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Yea, sounds like a society I'll stay away from.





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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Yea, sounds like a society I'll stay away from.
why






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joshnorris14
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why


There would be no capital structure.






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Zahrim
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if, instead of being money, the reward would be the knowledge that your needs would be met by people in the same situation as you?( not being rewarded with money)?


I only work for trade for friends, everyone else cash or gtfo cause trade wont pay the tax man or fuel my retirement savings.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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There would be no capital structure.
What's the difference between the capital in this world and the capital (knowledge, expectancy) in the OP world?

The knowledge that you will receive goods for free is as big an incentive as capital. The baker will bake his bread because he knows the miner will mine salt for him. The miner will mine salt because he knows the baker will bake bread for him.






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joshnorris14
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What's the difference between the capital in this world and the capital (knowledge, expectancy) in the OP world?


Knowledge and expectancy can't finance innovation.






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Zed
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In other words, knowledge that you will receive goods replaces knowledge that you will receive money as the incentive to work.
So forced bartering basically? I guess it could work, but wouldn't be ideal.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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So forced bartering basically?
It wouldn't be forced and it wouldn't be bartering. You don't have to provide a good in return for a good you'd receive. It wouldn't be the knowledge that you would get the specific good that the person who needs your goods produces, but rather the knowledge that any good you need would be provided to you.






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Wally Sparks
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Sounds like Star Trek





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THRILLHO
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So the garbageman and the doctor will each have all of their needs met, no more no less? And how do you define a need?





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Zed
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It wouldn't be the knowledge that you would get the specific good that the person who needs your goods produces, but rather the knowledge that any good you need would be provided to you.

Who ensures that everyone provides a product or service? The community? Would each individual have to meet a productivity threshold? What if everyone wanted to fish?






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Would each individual have to meet a productivity threshold?
No, that would be government coercion.

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What if everyone wanted to fish?

No one has the same interests. There would be many different occupations.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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So the garbageman and the doctor will each have all of their needs met,
needs and wants, just like in our current system.






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maizegoblue
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There would be no capital structure.



In other words there would be no corporatism.


Sign me up! I know you libs hate the government not determining who the "winners" are.






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