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Hardest Sport to Dominate (Big 3)?
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:30 pm
Was thinking earlier about parity within the big three sports, and the dynamics and involved in each, and began to wonder which one is the hardest for any single team to dominate.
In basketball, it seems upsets are much more common, especially in tournament play. Still, certain teams manage to dominate in spurts.
Baseball is another sport where upsets and unexpected Cinderellas rise to power quickly, yet over the last 20 years, there have only been 11 different national champions in baseball.
Football seems like more of an obvious choice, especially when looking at the last decade among certain schools, but many consider dominance in football an extremely difficult task.
What says the rant?
In basketball, it seems upsets are much more common, especially in tournament play. Still, certain teams manage to dominate in spurts.
Baseball is another sport where upsets and unexpected Cinderellas rise to power quickly, yet over the last 20 years, there have only been 11 different national champions in baseball.
Football seems like more of an obvious choice, especially when looking at the last decade among certain schools, but many consider dominance in football an extremely difficult task.
What says the rant?
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:31 pm to FamousAmos
I would think Basketball with Baseball a close second considering most of the best talent never even steps foot on a college campus or if they do its only for a year.
At least in football if you know how to recruit, a years class will give you at least three years of productivity.
At least in football if you know how to recruit, a years class will give you at least three years of productivity.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:35 pm to FamousAmos
Baseball and it is not really close IMHO. That's pretty much why you see teams go 100 years without a title and see salary front loaded teams like the Yankees flame out even with huge payrolls and lose to the Marlins. Scouting is more important and there is less margin for error with huge contracts.
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:48 pm to FamousAmos
cant be basketball, celtics and lakers have a combine 33 titles or something.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:50 pm to R_o_y
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Baseball and it is not really close IMHO. That's pretty much why you see teams go 100 years without a title and see salary front loaded teams like the Yankees flame out even with huge payrolls and lose to the Marlins. Scouting is more important and there is less margin for error with huge contracts.
I think he's talking about college. It isn't that hard to win championships in college baseball. LSU won like five titles in the '90s, USC won a million titles in the '60s and '70s, South Carolina has won two in the last three years, etc.... I personally believe college football is by far the hardest sport to win championships in because there are so many outside variables that are at play. Also, teams almost have no room for error. Oregon was killing everybody last year, had one bad game against Stanford and they were done. There are great programs like Tennessee and Michigan that go 40, 50 years without winning a title. Texas had a 35 year drought before Vince won them a title. Ohio State had a 30+ year NC drought before their NC win in 2002. Notre Dame hasn't won a championship since 1988. These are all those top 10 programs and they've all had lengthy championship droughts in recent memory. You don't really see that as much in basketball where all the blueblood programs usually find a way to win at least one NC in a 25 year window.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:03 pm to FamousAmos
number one, this isn't the rant. but still, i would say basketball obviously. (since we are talking college ball.)
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:07 pm to omrebelfan20
College Basketball.
College Football is the easiest because you don't actually have to win championships they are voted on.
College Football is the easiest because you don't actually have to win championships they are voted on.
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:08 pm to FamousAmos
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What says the rant?
Baseball because of pitching, soccer is second.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:10 pm to FamousAmos
if you're talking college the answer is baseball
the LSU's and Bama's are going to beat the Savanna States' and North Texas of the world in football 100% of the time in football
The Kentucky's & Dukes .... gonna beat teams XYZ 95% of the time in basketball
but in college baseball it's a whole lot more level playing field.
any team can beat any other team on any given day
the LSU's and Bama's are going to beat the Savanna States' and North Texas of the world in football 100% of the time in football
The Kentucky's & Dukes .... gonna beat teams XYZ 95% of the time in basketball
but in college baseball it's a whole lot more level playing field.
any team can beat any other team on any given day
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:15 pm to Bench McElroy
Sorry for the confusion. I was originally talking about college (posted this on the tiger rant) but we can open it up to both college and pros.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:17 pm to heypaul
Bama fans say football. Lsu fans say baseball. Im sure tennessee fans will say women's basketball and ole miss fans probably wont participate, but the real answer is basketball. You may see back to back champs every now and then but you dont see many dynasties in college basketball.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:19 pm to FamousAmos
In college, it's basketball.
1. First off, players only have to go for 1 year. So the best players are 1 and done.
2. In basketball, teams with inferior talent can compete if they work well as a team... more than in other sports.
3. In the NCAA Tournament, it's 1 and done. Lose and go home. And with basketball, sometimes teams have bad shooting nights. So even superior teams will be going home if they have an off night shooting the ball.
4. There are only about 13 or so players on a basketball team. Football and baseball have a ton of players. There is a lot of talent to go around in college basketball. Especially at the guard position, which makes the drop off in talent from the #1 to the mid-majors not as big of a gap as in other sports.
1. First off, players only have to go for 1 year. So the best players are 1 and done.
2. In basketball, teams with inferior talent can compete if they work well as a team... more than in other sports.
3. In the NCAA Tournament, it's 1 and done. Lose and go home. And with basketball, sometimes teams have bad shooting nights. So even superior teams will be going home if they have an off night shooting the ball.
4. There are only about 13 or so players on a basketball team. Football and baseball have a ton of players. There is a lot of talent to go around in college basketball. Especially at the guard position, which makes the drop off in talent from the #1 to the mid-majors not as big of a gap as in other sports.
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:20 pm to FamousAmos
For Pro Sports: Easies to Hardest
Baseball you have teams with outrageous amounts of money to spend.
Basketball you see teams with multiple superstars; Miami, LA (although this backfired), OKC (made through the draft) for some examples
Football is the hardest to dominate in, especially with the strict cap limits. The parity in the NFL is great. You can go from awful to good in one offseason with a good draft and free agent signings
For college: Easiest to hardest
Football you see the same teams dominate (SEC), and it has a lot to do with recruiting. Kids want to play for these schools, and the lack of playoffs has made it even easier to dominate for schools like Bama.
Basketball, you see the top kids go to the same schools pretty often. However, the NCAA Tourney is a tall task, and many upsets occur.
Baseball has some of the same teams reach the series, but you see a bit of parity there.
Baseball you have teams with outrageous amounts of money to spend.
Basketball you see teams with multiple superstars; Miami, LA (although this backfired), OKC (made through the draft) for some examples
Football is the hardest to dominate in, especially with the strict cap limits. The parity in the NFL is great. You can go from awful to good in one offseason with a good draft and free agent signings
For college: Easiest to hardest
Football you see the same teams dominate (SEC), and it has a lot to do with recruiting. Kids want to play for these schools, and the lack of playoffs has made it even easier to dominate for schools like Bama.
Basketball, you see the top kids go to the same schools pretty often. However, the NCAA Tourney is a tall task, and many upsets occur.
Baseball has some of the same teams reach the series, but you see a bit of parity there.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 10:05 am to PrimeTime Money
How is college basketball any different from college football? Forget the tournament for a moment and focus in on the teams that usually win the championship. Like college football, those teams who win the championships are traditional powers. For instance, the last five college basketball champions have been Kentucky, Connecticut, Duke, North Carolina, and Kansas. Those teams are in the Sweet Sixteen practically every year it seems. Also, if you look at the list of NCAA Basketball champions going back to 1980 you will find the vast majority of those teams appear in the tournament on a regular basis.
Like college football, there have only been two teams that have won back-to-back national championships in the last 40 years of college basketball. Alabama (2011 and 2012) and Nebraska (1994 and 1995) are the only two to win unanimous national championships in college football since the 40s. Florida (2006 and 2007) and Duke (1991 and 1992) are the only two teams to repeat as national champions in basketball since the early-70s.
Like college football, there have only been two teams that have won back-to-back national championships in the last 40 years of college basketball. Alabama (2011 and 2012) and Nebraska (1994 and 1995) are the only two to win unanimous national championships in college football since the 40s. Florida (2006 and 2007) and Duke (1991 and 1992) are the only two teams to repeat as national champions in basketball since the early-70s.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 10:06 am
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