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re: is the a good 1911 for the price?
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:30 am to H.M. Murdock
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:30 am to H.M. Murdock
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I believe there are 1911's still serving with 500,000 rounds through them
Highly doubt they're all original...
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:32 am to JAB528
Yeah, I said the frame is original. Some are marked as early as 1945.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:44 am to H.M. Murdock
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Our country's most super secret squirrels still use the 1911. Look what Devgru and the like use today. Look at the MEUSOC, those pistols are antiques yet they are being replaced with another 1911.
Secret squirrels? Do you think these squirrels spill drinks and let their guns get as dirty as truck guns get? Sure they get them muddy and sandy, but do they sit up for months on end? Great example.
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eta: I believe there are 1911's still serving with 500,000 rounds through them. Although the only original part may be the receiver(frame).
Good opinion but thats all it is. ETA: This is actually not an opinion at all. It is just an statement that is backed by zero facts or evidence.
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That plastic receiver just won't cut that.
How do you know this? Have you personally shot "500,000" rounds through a "plastic" gun?
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 10:46 am
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:49 am to Ice Cream Sammich
Perhaps you have never seen a combat weapon. A truck gun will not get nearly as dirty as one a soldier is carrying and beating the crap out of.
Hardly opinion, look it up. Most guns produced have a thing called a serial number and the armorers keep logs on these weapons, especially those use by force recon and the like.
Once again, if you have seen weapons that have been used for decades and been through combat and training you will notice they are beat to crap. Metal holds up a bit better than plastic.
You need to do some research.
Hardly opinion, look it up. Most guns produced have a thing called a serial number and the armorers keep logs on these weapons, especially those use by force recon and the like.
Once again, if you have seen weapons that have been used for decades and been through combat and training you will notice they are beat to crap. Metal holds up a bit better than plastic.
You need to do some research.
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 10:59 am
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:51 am to H.M. Murdock
A truck gun will not get cleaned nearly as much as LAPD or other special forces 1911s. Well, at least mine does not. Know why? Because modern plastic guns are much much more reliable. For you to try and say otherwise is silly. Dont be silly.
Keep trucking, big guy.
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You need to do some research.
Keep trucking, big guy.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:57 am to Ice Cream Sammich
Maybe your truck console is filled with sand, water, blood, sweat, and crap. You're the silly one. Do some simple research and you will find I am correct on this issue.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:59 am to JAB528
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I believe there are 1911's still serving with 500,000 rounds through them
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Highly doubt they're all original...
Agree.
Like the story about George Washington's axe.
"That's his ax right there. Of course, I've had to change the handle once or twice and that's a newer head on it, but that's his axe."
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:00 am to H.M. Murdock
I refuse to do your homework for you. I applaud you for defending your position and pray that your 1911 does not fail you when you need it most. 
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:02 am to VetteGuy
As I said, the frames are marked 1945. The frame. Many of the 1911's the marines like force recon us will see 10,000 to 15000 round per deployment for training. It adds up.
Also, slides, barrels, and other parts will remain in service for a while but they are not serial numbered so its hard to tell their round counts.
Also, slides, barrels, and other parts will remain in service for a while but they are not serial numbered so its hard to tell their round counts.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:03 am to VetteGuy
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:05 am to Ice Cream Sammich
I'm on a mobile and not linking pages or scanning pages from books. You can google what I said and see it there.
and you can keep your gun in your console which is apparently harsher than the Sahara.
Eta
Here's one cause it easy,
LINK
and you can keep your gun in your console which is apparently harsher than the Sahara.
Eta
Here's one cause it easy,
LINK
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 11:07 am
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:09 am to Ice Cream Sammich
I want a 1911 also. And by the way I do own a cannon(10 lb Parrot Rifle-full scale). Fun to set off.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:12 am to H.M. Murdock
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and you can keep your gun in your console which is apparently harsher than the Sahara.
Im glad that you finally understand. I was beginning to think that you were special.
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However, it is more common for a Marine to return the pistol to the PWS at Quantico for a rebuild after 10,000 rounds have been fired.[10] A rebuild entails discarding almost all of the gun's parts except for the frame, which prior to 2003 was a U.S. Government frame last manufactured in 1945.
You were correct. The frames are old. However, just like Vette said, heres George Washingtons axe.
I bet you still drink out of the same soda cans that were around 150 years ago. Sure they might have been scraped and melted to make new ones, but its still the same metal. Not to mention, how many of those old frames never saw a single shot until 20 years ago?
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:13 am to dwr353
I really want one. Just not that large.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:22 am to Ice Cream Sammich
Most, if not all of the 1911's produced where issue up to the deployment of the m9, so it's safe to say almost every 1911 the us issued saw service in the Second World War, Korea, vientam, and any place a us soldier was stationed since then and during the Cold War.
Believe it or not but even if those pistol were never fired in combat they were fired thousand upon thousands of time during training over decades.
Believe it or not but even if those pistol were never fired in combat they were fired thousand upon thousands of time during training over decades.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:22 am to Ice Cream Sammich
I'm a 1911 fanboi...
With that being said, it's no secret they are way more high maintainence than a glock. Therefore, for a "truck gun" I'd rather something not as high maintainence, especially if the truck your keeping it in is a frickin mess like mine.
With that being said, it's no secret they are way more high maintainence than a glock. Therefore, for a "truck gun" I'd rather something not as high maintainence, especially if the truck your keeping it in is a frickin mess like mine.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:29 am to H.M. Murdock
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Believe it or not but even if those pistol were never fired in combat they were fired thousand upon thousands of time during training over decades.
Thats easy to believe. I am just saying that I bet there are/were many many 1911s that were never unboxed for decades. Millions upon millions were built.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:40 am to H.M. Murdock
Alter.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:48 am to JAB528
He claims not to be but hes good, one way or the other. Almost has a KR passion about 1911s to him.
Posted on 2/19/13 at 12:08 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
ALMOST.
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