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Can an old timer give a history lesson of the LSU/Kentucky basketball series?

Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:03 pm
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:03 pm
Like pre-1990.

LSU's won one time in Rupp Arena since 1990.

LSU did beat Kentucky three times from 2006-2009. Twice in 2009. Raise the banner.

What are the chances LSU keeps things close with a not so hot Kentucky team on Saturday. I think they can.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:06 pm to
I think the years from 1978 to 1987 was probably the best decade of the series.

I have very blurry memories of '86 & '87.

I think whatever that game was where Dale Brown threw his sports jacket out on the floor in protest was supposed to be a classic, because I've seen that replayed a thousand times.
Posted by geauxtigers585
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:09 pm to
I was watching the game in my dorm room at lsu when taz hit that 3 to win the game at rupp in 09. I went nuts. Good times
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:14 pm to
SPEEDY's thread on the '78 game: " Dale Brown to a reporter: "Have you ever masturbated?"."

Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:14 pm to
During the Final Four era of Dale Brown, we would beat everybody but Kentucky. And they had a New Orleans player Rick Roby who spurned LSU. Then we finally beat them like 88-86 one time and went on to the Final Four. I saw a Roby game once at B.R.. It was late 70's or early 80's. Kentucky was the team to beat then. Florida was good. We were usually 2nd or 3rd in the conference and progressed in the tournament often.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:16 pm to
What's the series record? I'm sure it's not pretty.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:17 pm to
I think the "Coat Game" might have been 1979: LINK.

The regular season champs from 1977 to 1986 were always either LSU or Kentucky. The SEC Tourney didn't begin until 1979, and LSU won it in 1980, in between the two regular season titles in 1979 & 1981. The '86 & '87 teams were of course the famous NCAA Tourney teams.

1977 Kentucky, Tennessee No Tournament
1978 Kentucky No Tournament
1979 LSU Tennessee
1980 Kentucky LSU
1981 LSU Mississippi
1982 Kentucky, Tennessee Alabama
1983 Kentucky Georgia
1984 Kentucky Kentucky
1985 LSU Auburn
1986 Kentucky Kentucky


EDIT: There's also a good place to look up year-by-year results for UK basketball at LINK.

The '78 Cats went 30-2 and won a NC, losing only on the road to Bama & LSU.

The '79 Cats weren't that good and lost both games to LSU.

The '80 Cats went 29-6, and lost to LSU at home, and also in the NCAA Tourney.

The '81 Cats went 22-6, and lost to LSU on the road.

They split again for a couple of years, and then UK swept in '84, and then split in '85, and then UK swept in '86, except not really, because LSU beat UK in the NCAA Tourney to punch their ticket to the Final Four.

Then in '87 LSU swept, beating the crap out of UK in Rupp 76-41.

By that time, UK basketball was no longer what it once was, and then LSU had an off year in '88, and then Chris Jackson came to town in '89 and made LSU basketball get insanely popular with the fans.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 5:42 pm
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:35 pm to
One of the most famous games was the 1978 95-94 OT win in BR where all our starters fouled out in regulation. UK went on to win the national title.

The most infamous UK game I remember was the 1994 game we lost in BR where we blew a 31 point lead in the 2nd half.



Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14475 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:37 pm to
I don't think we ever beat Kentucky until the 60's and that just once and it wasn't with Pete.

Dale made it his mission to beat Kentucky, and at times I think it compromised some other games and even into post-season, but he was obsessed with beating them.

I can remember crowds wrapped around the building in 1980 to watch 2 top 5 teams squaring of in the Assembly Center.

Too many stories to tell, but you'll get some good ones in this thread.
Posted by Ronis
Utica, NY
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:45 pm to
86-87 Kentucky beat us twice in the regular season and once in the SEC Tournament. Nikita Wilson was out on grades, we were down players to chicken pox It got so bad Chris Carrier suited up. The season changed when we lost to Georgetown in a game we got hosed. On our last possession Dale told Jose Varges and Ollie Brown whatever you do do not shoot. Jose let a 17 foot rocket go and we lost. We played great the resu of the year. In the regional final Ricky Blanton out played Kenny Sky Walker and Winston Bennett. When it really counted we beat that crap team and went onto the final 4. We were a 11 seed and should have beaten Pervis Ellison and Louisville. I don't think and NCAA team went so far with so many set backs and role players. Thanks Derrick Taylor, John Williams, Ricky Blanton, Anthony Wilson, Ollie , Jose, Bernard Woodside, and my favorite the late Don Redden. And Yugos.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:47 pm to
I was just a teeny kid, but losing to Bobby fricking Knight and the Hoosiers in 1987 in the Elite 8 had to be the most heartbreaking loss in the history of LSU basketball. I really can't imagine anything coming close to being that devastating.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8155 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

What are the chances LSU keeps things close with a not so hot Kentucky team on Saturday.


0%. JOB will have 2 fouls in the first 3 minutes. Even if Kentucky plays a terrible game, the refs will bail them out.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7271 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

86-87 Kentucky beat us twice in the regular season and once in the SEC Tournament. Nikita Wilson was out on grades, we were down players to chicken pox It got so bad Chris Carrier suited up. The season changed when we lost to Georgetown in a game we got hosed. On our last possession Dale told Jose Varges and Ollie Brown whatever you do do not shoot. Jose let a 17 foot rocket go and we lost. We played great the resu of the year. In the regional final Ricky Blanton out played Kenny Sky Walker and Winston Bennett. When it really counted we beat that crap team and went onto the final 4. We were a 11 seed and should have beaten Pervis Ellison and Louisville. I don't think and NCAA team went so far with so many set backs and role players. Thanks Derrick Taylor, John Williams, Ricky Blanton, Anthony Wilson, Ollie , Jose, Bernard Woodside, and my favorite the late Don Redden. And Yugos.

Absolutely my greatest memory of LSU basketball. This was Dale Brown's type of team, and proof that he was a helluva coach. He just needed the right group of overachievers to have success.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 6:03 pm
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:57 pm to
Agree with you there Doc, I was in law school at the time in Mississippi and watching that game from my dorm room. Should not have gotten that close down the stretch but even still if Fess Irvin from my home town of Gonzales and high school alma mater East Ascension hits the free throws down the stretch . We Win. I like you was highly upset because if we win that game, the Final Four is in the Superdome and I believe , truly believe we would have won the Big Dance.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:05 pm to
When the Hustler's beat UK in OT with a unreal number of guys fouled out, that's when LSU took off under Dale.


There are two games that come to mind the most. The Elite Eight game in 85-86 when LSU had lost three times to UK that season already. Ricky Blanton running up court arms waving in jubilation will be etched in my mind till the day I die. The other is really a meaningless game. But it was at UK and LSU won like 76-49 or some crazy shite like that. It was during Eddie Sutton's time up there. It was the worse home defeat in UK history and may still be.

Many games in the 80's were top 25 matchups, when SEC basketball seemed to actually matter. Great memories
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164047 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:17 pm to
Dale Brown holds the record for most wins and games coached against Kentucky with 18 wins and 51 games.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:25 pm to
Pretty sure Dale Brown has beaten Kentucky more times than any other coach. From the late 70s to early 90s the lsu/uk games were usually big games by both schools' standards. The pmac was always crazy for the games and lsu would have mike drop down from the ceiling before the starting lineups, shoot fireworks, etc. Kentucky fans also joined in to loudly boo lester earl everytime he touched the ball during their 2nd round game in the '99 tournament in the dome partly because they knew how bad that guy hurt our program. It was a good rivalry for around 15 years. Hopefully we'll get good enough soon to be able to compete with them every year.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:32 pm to
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EDIT: There's also a good place to look up year-by-year results for UK basketball at LIN

This one is a lot easier to use. Can filter for most anything you're looking for about kentucky bball.
LINK
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:32 pm to
So true , I was at that game in 1978 sitting with my cousin. That was a great among the great Kentucky games and you are so right , I seem to remember one of LSU's first of not too many 7 footers Rick Mattick from the state of Florida hitting some free throws down the stretch to get us up by 2 or 3 in the second OT to just about secure the win. You are correct, definitely some great memories back in the day.
Posted by Walter White
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Dale Brown holds the record for most wins and games coached against Kentucky with 18 wins and 51 games.


Dale was/still is the man. My grandfather was one of the guys who hired him here in the first place. To quote an article about him: "he's a great coach and even better human being"
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