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re: 2013 NFL Draft -- Saints Mock Draft Compliation
Posted on 4/4/13 at 7:30 pm to LooseCannon22282
Posted on 4/4/13 at 7:30 pm to LooseCannon22282
quote:
saw how Fluker continues to shoot up some boards.
A battle between Cooper & him, who will go first? Two guards that can rank top 10 in one year is pretty odd
quote:
-also find it interesting that Star could fall that far
a little much since he has been given a strong green light. Not a shocker at 13 but quite a gift
It could be a real stars are aligned scenario if Jones comes in at #15. Reminds me a lot of Terrel Suggs in '03. Same scenario- sterling game tape, poor Combine and workouts, and some questions about his desire or intangibles. Looked him up- 84 sacks in 10 years. I'd take that.
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 5:11 pm to blueslover
I'm thinking that we go OL now. I don't know why, I just have a gut feeling.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:42 pm to GeauxAggie972
Eric Fisher is a great kid, meet him at Senior Bowl where he won the scout award, but man we need defensive lineman
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:36 pm to blueslover
quote:
saw how Fluker continues to shoot up some boards.
quote:
A battle between Cooper & him, who will go first? Two guards that can rank top 10 in one year is pretty odd
Warmack is the guard. Fluker is a tackle.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 9:52 am to cuddlemonkey
gotcha, what I meant, unusual having two guards being ranked as high as Cooper & Warmack. Before penciling them in top ten though remember David DeCastro last year was also touted top ten. He ended up #24.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 9:54 am to blueslover
SI Don Banks
15 Barkevious Mingo
OLB/DE LSU Jr. 6-4 241
This feels like the mid-round neighborhood where Mingo is going to come off the board, and the Saints are looking for pass rushers who they can plug in and play quickly in defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's new 3-4 defensive formation. Every so often, logic reigns in our 4.0 mock.
15 Barkevious Mingo
OLB/DE LSU Jr. 6-4 241
This feels like the mid-round neighborhood where Mingo is going to come off the board, and the Saints are looking for pass rushers who they can plug in and play quickly in defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's new 3-4 defensive formation. Every so often, logic reigns in our 4.0 mock.
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:58 pm to blueslover
quote:
gotcha, what I meant, unusual having two guards being ranked as high as Cooper & Warmack. Before penciling them in top ten though remember David DeCastro last year was also touted top ten. He ended up #24.
yeah, guards don't typically go that high.
the Saints were the last team to pick one in the Top 15.
1997- Chris Naeole #10 overall.
Posted on 4/7/13 at 8:31 am to LooseCannon22282
1. Kansas City Chiefs (2-14)
Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M. The Chiefs have said they are down to a "final four" pool for the first overall pick, but it's pretty clear that despite their move to franchise-tag Branden Albert, they are very interested in a franchise left tackle. They'll go with Joeckel, who rates a tad better than Central Michigan's Eric Fisher.
2. Jacksonville Jaguars (2-14)
Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon. The Jaguars don't just need a pass rusher, they need a dynamic one to match the energy of their new defensive-minded head coach, Gus Bradley. The ex-Seattle coordinator can tap back into the Pacific Northwest for the explosive Jordan.
— Position rankings: DE | OLB | DT | QB | RB | WR | TE | T | G
3. Oakland Raiders (4-12)
Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida. The Raiders are getting an extreme makeover in the defensive line, as Richard Seymour, Desmond Bryant, Tommy Kelly and Matt Shaughnessy are all out of the picture. Floyd is built to be a disruptive force in a 4-3, and Dennis Allen should be thrilled to have him as a new cornerstone.
4. Philadelphia Eagles (4-12)
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia. Sure, for the moment, Michael Vick and Nick Foles look like they'll be battling to be the starting quarterback for Chip Kelly. But there's no denying Smith has the basic skill set (arm, accuracy, athleticism) that Kelly could mold into something special in his up-tempo passing offense.
5. Detroit Lions (4-12)
Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan. The Lions did well staying in state with the now retired Michigan product Jeff Backus. And now they can do even better with Fisher, a big man from the Mount Pleasant campus. He's an athletic rock of a blindside pass protector who would make Matthew Stafford very happy.
6. Cleveland Browns (5-11)
Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU. The Browns already added a rising pass rusher from the Beehive State (former Utah and Ravens linebacker Paul Kruger) in free agency. In Ansah, they can add the draft's other freakishly gifted edge player after Jordan.
7. Arizona Cardinals (5-11)
Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma. The Cardinals will take a closer look at Matt Barkley, but they don't need to take a quarterback here anymore after getting Carson Palmer as their short-term veteran solution. The immobile Palmer desperately needs an upgraded Arizona line, and Johnson is the last surefire stud left tackle on the board.
8. Buffalo Bills (6-10)
Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California. The Bills have liked North Carolina State's Mike Glennon for a while and have the coaching ties to Syracuse’s Ryan Nassib. But if they truly want to take the most intriguing quarterback in this class after Smith, Barkley is their man.
9. New York Jets (6-10)
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia. The rise of Jordan and Ansah can benefit the Jets. For Rex Ryan, he should see Jones as the explosive, versatile playmaker his attack defense has lacked.
10. Tennessee Titans (6-10)
Chance Warmack, G, Alabama. The Titans have made it a point to boost their interior run blocking, and the combination of Warmack and free-agent addition Andy Levitre would do just that.
11. San Diego Chargers (7-9)
Jonathan Cooper, G, North Carolina. The Chargers need offensive line help, and if the top three offensive tackles and Warmack are gone, they should be happy taking Cooper as an impact player inside.
12. Miami Dolphins (7-9)
Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State. They stay in state to get a sharp cover man with shutdown potential. Rhodes is making a push to be the first corner off the board.
13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (7-9)
Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama. This is why the Bucs don't want to give the Jets this pick for Darrelle Revis — they know they'll have their choice of Rhodes or Milliner to address their big cornerback need.
14. Carolina Panthers (7-9)
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah. The Panthers have done well with former Utes Steve Smith and Jordan Gross. The versatile Lotulelei would be a nice blocker-eater in front of 2012 first-round linebacker Luke Kuechly, the defensive rookie of the year.
15. New Orleans Saints (7-9)
Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU. The Saints can look down the road--on I-10 to Baton Rouge--to add an attacking edge player suited for their new 3-4 defense under Rob Ryan. Ryan will love both Mingo's bark and bite to get to the quarterback.
Sporting News
Starting to see a lot of consolidation, Jets take Jones or Mingo and the Saints take the other.
Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M. The Chiefs have said they are down to a "final four" pool for the first overall pick, but it's pretty clear that despite their move to franchise-tag Branden Albert, they are very interested in a franchise left tackle. They'll go with Joeckel, who rates a tad better than Central Michigan's Eric Fisher.
2. Jacksonville Jaguars (2-14)
Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon. The Jaguars don't just need a pass rusher, they need a dynamic one to match the energy of their new defensive-minded head coach, Gus Bradley. The ex-Seattle coordinator can tap back into the Pacific Northwest for the explosive Jordan.
— Position rankings: DE | OLB | DT | QB | RB | WR | TE | T | G
3. Oakland Raiders (4-12)
Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida. The Raiders are getting an extreme makeover in the defensive line, as Richard Seymour, Desmond Bryant, Tommy Kelly and Matt Shaughnessy are all out of the picture. Floyd is built to be a disruptive force in a 4-3, and Dennis Allen should be thrilled to have him as a new cornerstone.
4. Philadelphia Eagles (4-12)
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia. Sure, for the moment, Michael Vick and Nick Foles look like they'll be battling to be the starting quarterback for Chip Kelly. But there's no denying Smith has the basic skill set (arm, accuracy, athleticism) that Kelly could mold into something special in his up-tempo passing offense.
5. Detroit Lions (4-12)
Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan. The Lions did well staying in state with the now retired Michigan product Jeff Backus. And now they can do even better with Fisher, a big man from the Mount Pleasant campus. He's an athletic rock of a blindside pass protector who would make Matthew Stafford very happy.
6. Cleveland Browns (5-11)
Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU. The Browns already added a rising pass rusher from the Beehive State (former Utah and Ravens linebacker Paul Kruger) in free agency. In Ansah, they can add the draft's other freakishly gifted edge player after Jordan.
7. Arizona Cardinals (5-11)
Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma. The Cardinals will take a closer look at Matt Barkley, but they don't need to take a quarterback here anymore after getting Carson Palmer as their short-term veteran solution. The immobile Palmer desperately needs an upgraded Arizona line, and Johnson is the last surefire stud left tackle on the board.
8. Buffalo Bills (6-10)
Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California. The Bills have liked North Carolina State's Mike Glennon for a while and have the coaching ties to Syracuse’s Ryan Nassib. But if they truly want to take the most intriguing quarterback in this class after Smith, Barkley is their man.
9. New York Jets (6-10)
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia. The rise of Jordan and Ansah can benefit the Jets. For Rex Ryan, he should see Jones as the explosive, versatile playmaker his attack defense has lacked.
10. Tennessee Titans (6-10)
Chance Warmack, G, Alabama. The Titans have made it a point to boost their interior run blocking, and the combination of Warmack and free-agent addition Andy Levitre would do just that.
11. San Diego Chargers (7-9)
Jonathan Cooper, G, North Carolina. The Chargers need offensive line help, and if the top three offensive tackles and Warmack are gone, they should be happy taking Cooper as an impact player inside.
12. Miami Dolphins (7-9)
Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State. They stay in state to get a sharp cover man with shutdown potential. Rhodes is making a push to be the first corner off the board.
13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (7-9)
Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama. This is why the Bucs don't want to give the Jets this pick for Darrelle Revis — they know they'll have their choice of Rhodes or Milliner to address their big cornerback need.
14. Carolina Panthers (7-9)
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah. The Panthers have done well with former Utes Steve Smith and Jordan Gross. The versatile Lotulelei would be a nice blocker-eater in front of 2012 first-round linebacker Luke Kuechly, the defensive rookie of the year.
15. New Orleans Saints (7-9)
Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU. The Saints can look down the road--on I-10 to Baton Rouge--to add an attacking edge player suited for their new 3-4 defense under Rob Ryan. Ryan will love both Mingo's bark and bite to get to the quarterback.
Sporting News
Starting to see a lot of consolidation, Jets take Jones or Mingo and the Saints take the other.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 8:10 am to blueslover
Sam Farmer LA Times
15. SAINTS — Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia: Jones' once sky-high stock has dropped because of spinal stenosis and possibly because of his decision not to work out at the combine. Still, he could be a bargain at this spot and a good addition to a wobbly defense that Rob Ryan aims to fix.
15. SAINTS — Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia: Jones' once sky-high stock has dropped because of spinal stenosis and possibly because of his decision not to work out at the combine. Still, he could be a bargain at this spot and a good addition to a wobbly defense that Rob Ryan aims to fix.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:15 am to blueslover
keenan allan shite the bed today. dude pulled a barkley for us.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:01 pm to Chad504boy
15
New Orleans Barkevious Mingo* OLB LSU 6042 241 4.56
A competitor with excellent lateral quickness. Runs plays down from the backside like a cheetah chasing a gazelle. Athletic enough to create inside pass rush pressure on stunts. Fast, quick, and explosive in his play. Can leverage a tackle back to the quarterback. A natural 3-4 rush outside linebacker. Will be new defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's Demarcus Ware.
ourlads
not a bad mock, almost a consensus of many out there, only quibble is Jarvis Jones. I can see falling but not to #32
New Orleans Barkevious Mingo* OLB LSU 6042 241 4.56
A competitor with excellent lateral quickness. Runs plays down from the backside like a cheetah chasing a gazelle. Athletic enough to create inside pass rush pressure on stunts. Fast, quick, and explosive in his play. Can leverage a tackle back to the quarterback. A natural 3-4 rush outside linebacker. Will be new defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's Demarcus Ware.
ourlads
not a bad mock, almost a consensus of many out there, only quibble is Jarvis Jones. I can see falling but not to #32
This post was edited on 4/9/13 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:07 pm to blueslover
15. NO: Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
Mingo could go sooner, despite falling towards the middle of the first in this mock. The Saints' defense really struggled last season and getting after the quarterback is the quickest way to get better as a unit.
fftoolbox
a decent could-be mock, Jarvis Jones at #17.
Really would be interesting who the Saints would go with if both Jones and Mingo are on the board as clear cut BPAs. My choice is Jones but could see Mingo too. What say ye?
Mingo could go sooner, despite falling towards the middle of the first in this mock. The Saints' defense really struggled last season and getting after the quarterback is the quickest way to get better as a unit.
fftoolbox
a decent could-be mock, Jarvis Jones at #17.
Really would be interesting who the Saints would go with if both Jones and Mingo are on the board as clear cut BPAs. My choice is Jones but could see Mingo too. What say ye?
Posted on 4/9/13 at 10:44 pm to blueslover
I'm really hoping its Mingo. I would probably instantly buy one of his jerseys 
Posted on 4/10/13 at 5:41 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Daniel Jeremiah's Mock 5.0 posted earlier today.
1) KC- Luke Joeckel
2) JAX- Dion Jordan
3) OAK- Sharrif Floyd
4) PHI- Geno Smith
5) DET- Eric Fisher
6) CLE- Dee Milliner
7) ARI- Lane Johnson
8) BUF- Tavon Austin
9) NYJ- Ziggy Ansah
10) TEN- Jonathon Cooper
11) SD- Chance Warmack
12) MIA- Xavier Rhodes
13) TB- Tyler Eifert
14) CAR- Star Lotulelei
15) NO- Barkevious Mingo
LINK
1) KC- Luke Joeckel
2) JAX- Dion Jordan
3) OAK- Sharrif Floyd
4) PHI- Geno Smith
5) DET- Eric Fisher
6) CLE- Dee Milliner
7) ARI- Lane Johnson
8) BUF- Tavon Austin
9) NYJ- Ziggy Ansah
10) TEN- Jonathon Cooper
11) SD- Chance Warmack
12) MIA- Xavier Rhodes
13) TB- Tyler Eifert
14) CAR- Star Lotulelei
15) NO- Barkevious Mingo
quote:
Mingo is a tricky player to evaluate. He has the tools to dominate, but his game tape leaves you wanting more. This would be a bit of a gamble, but the payoff could be huge for the Saints.
LINK
Posted on 4/10/13 at 5:49 pm to blueslover
I'd be pretty upset if they picked Mingo over Jones.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 5:51 pm to mm2316
I'd rather have Jones as well. Nothing against Mingo but Jones just seems more consistent.
Let everyone keep knocking Jones's work outs
I still want him.
Let everyone keep knocking Jones's work outs
I still want him.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 9:48 pm to blueslover
I'm an LSU homer but I'd pick Jones. His injury doesn't seem as worrisome as the Utah DT, and all Jones does is make plays. Mingo is a workout freak but had a strangely underwhelming season. I still think left offensive tackle is the biggest need right now though.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:15 am to TigerJeff
triplett compiles 20 mocks
LSU pass rusher Barkevious Mingo is by far the most popular choice among mock drafters to land with the New Orleans Saints with the 15th pick of the NFL Draft. Out of the 20 national-media mock drafts I sampled, eight of them predict that the Saints will draft Mingo.
-kinda random compilation, some good mockers and others off the wall. I'd agree Mingo is the most common choice. Jones is next and closer than his statistics.
LSU pass rusher Barkevious Mingo is by far the most popular choice among mock drafters to land with the New Orleans Saints with the 15th pick of the NFL Draft. Out of the 20 national-media mock drafts I sampled, eight of them predict that the Saints will draft Mingo.
-kinda random compilation, some good mockers and others off the wall. I'd agree Mingo is the most common choice. Jones is next and closer than his statistics.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:20 am to LooseCannon22282
quote:
Nothing against Mingo but Jones just seems more consistent.
Same here. I'd be good with Mingo if Jones was gone. But if they're both there, give me the guy who played in the 3-4 and produced, over the guy making the position switch, and will be somewhat of a project.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 9:26 am
Posted on 4/13/13 at 11:26 am to mm2316
shutdown corner
15. New Orleans Saints: Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU. Mingo isn't a pure run-stopper per se -- he's a totally explosive edge defender with the ability to provide consistent quarterback pressure. He's a great fit for a Rob Ryan defense in need of more players who can do these things.
-many more mocks are now lining up in consensus. This one is pretty typical. If ya look at many one common scenario could evolve. That is, out of the top 4 pass rushers the jets could choose between the last two and then the Saints get whoever is left. Right now that is looking 50/50 being Jones or Mingo.
15. New Orleans Saints: Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU. Mingo isn't a pure run-stopper per se -- he's a totally explosive edge defender with the ability to provide consistent quarterback pressure. He's a great fit for a Rob Ryan defense in need of more players who can do these things.
-many more mocks are now lining up in consensus. This one is pretty typical. If ya look at many one common scenario could evolve. That is, out of the top 4 pass rushers the jets could choose between the last two and then the Saints get whoever is left. Right now that is looking 50/50 being Jones or Mingo.
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