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If They Come For Your Guns...



I apologize in advance if this has been posted. Interesting article...I think off base...but interesting nevertheless.

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About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.


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Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.


Let me state that I don't think Obama is coming after everyone's guns in a confiscation sense. I think he is after an AR ban and magazine limitations.

Let me also say that I am not going to kill anyone unless and until they are trying to kill me. Arresting me is not an attempt to kill me. I think it is very dangerous for large numbers of people to advocate killing others over a piece of property when your life is not threatened in the process of taking that property. Moreover, from a religous perspective, I don't think "thou shall not kill" has a qualifier for gun confiscation.

I just found the article to be interesting.







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Let me state that I don't think Obama is coming after everyone's guns in a confiscation sense.


Nobody is gonna show up at your door to take your guns.

They WILL show up at your Probate meetings.

Just a few generations later, no guns.






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They WILL show up at your Probate meetings


Is there a sense that legislation will be passed that will eliminate the ability to inherit guns?






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Moreover, from a religous perspective, I don't think "thou shall not kill" has a qualifier for gun confiscation.


Oh, and yes it does.






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Nobody is gonna show up at your door to take your guns.

They WILL show up at your Probate meetings.

Just a few generations later, no guns.





What guns.....?


They were all stolen years ago, and here's the police report of the burglary...













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Is there a sense that legislation will be passed that will eliminate the ability to inherit guns?


Yes, the are talking about "grandfathering" in the people that currently own "assault weapons". With that they (mine got lost this morning in the tornado) will have to register them and will not be able transfer ownership to anyone, including heirs. So once all the current "assault weapon" owners die, there won't be any left.






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Moreover, from a religous perspective, I don't think "thou shall not kill" has a qualifier for gun confiscation.


It's "Thou shall not murder" which is different from "thou shall not kill."






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So once all the current "assault weapon" owners die, there won't be any left.


I wonder if transfering would include corporate ownership? In other words, I form an LLC or S-Corp, place the guns in the ownership of that entity and sell my ownership to my kids upon death along with the property belonging to the corporation.






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It's "Thou shall not murder" which is different from "thou shall not kill."


If they are only threatening arrest, it would still be murder though.






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I think he is after an AR ban and magazine limitations.


I'm OK with this.






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I'm OK with this.


I am not okay with AR ban, but I not gonna kill or be killed over it either. I could live with the mag ban though from a political sense (although I think it is ridiculous is practice and effect).






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I wonder if transfering would include corporate ownership? In other words, I form an LLC or S-Corp, place the guns in the ownership of that entity and sell my ownership to my kids upon death along with the property belonging to the corporation. [/quote]

Many people do this now with NFA weapons i.e. machine guns, suppressors, and short barreled rifles/shotguns. They form trusts and LLC that own the weapons that way it eliminates the headache inherent with transferring a NFA weapon to an heir. If they do some sort of ban on transfer i think many of these will be formed.






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After the recent events including Newtown and the Auroa shootings, there is going to have to be a compromise.

Weapons have reached a point that could have never been anticipated by the drafters of the constitution.

Do you think people should be able to purchase nuclear weapons for personal use?






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Do you think people should be able to purchase nuclear weapons for personal use?


That is a strawman. I prefer to speak in real terms. Obama wants all nations to destroy their nukes. Not a bad wish. It is not a wish based on reality, just like elimination of AWs.

Moreover, areas like Chicago and DC and Connecticut that have tried to remove these weapons have not been successful at preventing gun crimes.

The assault weapon is not the problem. My compromise would be limiting magazine capacity.






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I'm really starting to believe the divide this will cause will be up there with slavery. Not saying there will be a Civil War but they are for a big surprise when they see how many people stand up against this.





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If they are only threatening arrest, it would still be murder though.


No because they are people coming onto your property uninvited and basically stealing something that you own. Just because they are Government does not change that fact.

Nowhere in the Bible does it give human Gov't exception to be able to steal the people's property. And people were killed for being thieves back then.






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Not saying there will be a Civil War but they are for a big surprise when they see how many people stand up against this.


I disagree. There will be very few that would do anything other than turn in their guns if the government came knocking.

There may be a few at first, but when drones blow their houses up...the rest will step in line.

Obviously, it will never come to this because the government, IMO, will never actually attempt to confiscate all weapons.






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No because they are people coming onto your property uninvited and basically stealing something that you own. Just because they are Government does not change that fact.


Stealing does not equate to threatening your life.






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Stealing does not equate to threatening your life.


How are you supposed to discern the intentions of the person/persons trespassing on your property?



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