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Close range interference with mid range rifle shots
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:26 am
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:26 am
Hunting a pop up this am with my .308 with the longest possible shot 185 yrds. I'm curious do you think there would be significant alteration of bullet flight if I were to shot through the mesh pass through windows designed for arrows to pass through?
What about accidentally nicking one of the small green briar vines or twigs that have fallen in front of the windows?
What about accidentally nicking one of the small green briar vines or twigs that have fallen in front of the windows?
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:39 am to Bleeding purple
I can't imagine the mesh having any affect on the bullet. The limbs, possibly, seems like it would depend on a few things?!
Like how big the limb is and how far the shot is. Of course this is just my opinion!
Like how big the limb is and how far the shot is. Of course this is just my opinion!
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:45 am to Bleeding purple
At 185 yards the slightest deflection angle could put your shot off by as much as a foot. At that range just because you cant see a branch in your scope doesn't mean that your bullet wont hit one as your crossairs and bullet path dont actually converge until they reach the target.
Eta: Unless you are shooting round nose bullets. Those will handle the obstruction with little problem.
Eta: Unless you are shooting round nose bullets. Those will handle the obstruction with little problem.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:46 am
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:47 am to Bleeding purple
If you had a brush gun, it would not be an issue 
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:48 am
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:03 am to Nodust
quote:Oh my Lawwwd, let's hope he ain't using balistic tips.. BP and that tent would go up in smoke, and leave no blood trail..
If you had a brush gun,
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:05 am to Nodust
Remington core lockt PSP 150 gr. Most limbs/twigs only 1-2 ft in front of gun and no larger than half diameter of a pencil
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:09 am to Bleeding purple
The mesh, no. The limbs, you never can tell. And don't believe the wives tales about different bullets. They all deflect. No bullet is any better. You can't tell about the limbs. Eight times out of ten, there might not be much effect, the other two times it might make your shot miss by a mile.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:32 am to Bleeding purple
I would trim the branches. A small deflection three feet from muzzle could mean feet at 150yards.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:39 am to Nodust
Pop up being attacked by 6 bluejays at moment no quadrpeds to shoot at.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:22 am to Bleeding purple
Low grain, small diameter bullets will be more adversely affected by limbs, branches, twigs than a large grain, large diameter bullet. I use the .270/7mag on highlines and the .444 Marlin for up close thick cover hunting.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:25 am to 4X4DEMON
Numerous test have shown that the size of the bullet and velocity make no difference in brush busting. In fact, if anything, the bigger and slower it is, the more it is affected. In one test the 45/70 fared the worst of anything, including things like the .243.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:26 am to Hawgon
Not in my vast experience. And I'm twice the hunter all Myth Buster is. 
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:35 am to Bleeding purple
The closer to you the deflection happens, and that means anything that bullet hits, the more off it's gonna be downrange.
There is no such thing as a 'brush round'.
You'd think that mesh wouldn't effect it much, but I'd be willing to bet that if you put if on paper you'd be pretty disappointed in the groups. It's not like an arrow going through it by slicing. The bullet has to punch through. When even the slightest harmonic change on the barrel from just touching something will throw the bullet off, having to punch through plastic mesh is definitely going to have some effects. And those effects will be magnified the further downrange it goes.
Now if you've got the barrel up to it and the gasses melt it before the bullet gets touched... no effect. Would be interested in seeing someone do this on paper.
There is no such thing as a 'brush round'.
You'd think that mesh wouldn't effect it much, but I'd be willing to bet that if you put if on paper you'd be pretty disappointed in the groups. It's not like an arrow going through it by slicing. The bullet has to punch through. When even the slightest harmonic change on the barrel from just touching something will throw the bullet off, having to punch through plastic mesh is definitely going to have some effects. And those effects will be magnified the further downrange it goes.
Now if you've got the barrel up to it and the gasses melt it before the bullet gets touched... no effect. Would be interested in seeing someone do this on paper.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:53 pm to 4X4DEMON
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Not in my vast experience. And I'm twice the hunter all Myth Buster is.
That should put an end to the debate -- well played sir.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:01 pm to dawg23
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:22 pm to faxis
Now if you've got the barrel up to it and the gasses melt it before the bullet gets touched... no effect. Would be interested in seeing someone do this on paper.
That is a great point I would never have thought of.
That is a great point I would never have thought of.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:24 pm to Bleeding purple
I'd get those branches/twigs out of the way.
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