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re: Austin Rivers sucks

Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:37 pm to
lol K
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:39 pm to
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Marshall has been the worst lottery pick by far in the draft.
Worse than Royce White?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:40 pm to
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Worse than Royce White?


Let's put it this way, Marshall has been the worst lottery pick out of those that have actually played

Besides, I'm pretty sure White wasn't a lottery pick
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 8:41 pm
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:41 pm to
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So you're saying they're not better than Rivers.
Not at all. Both of those two you just named were on teams with a lot of depth at those positions.

Rivers is in a situation where he has to play now. Should he be playing as much as he is? No, not at all. But he is due to injuries and a lack of depth.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:41 pm to
White wasn't a lottery pick.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:46 pm to
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White wasn't a lottery pick.
Fair enough

My point still stands with Marshall. At least he can pass the ball.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:47 pm to
Rivers has a better assist/turnover ratio.

ETA: And hasn't been sent to the D League by a rebuilding team.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:48 pm to
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At least he can pass the ball.

I've seen Rivers make some nice passes. Remember, he's learning a position he's not used to. Give him time to get it down. But I've seen flashes of his passing skills.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:49 pm to
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Rivers has a better assist/turnover ratio.
From Marshall's like 15 minutes total playing time all season?

Sweet stat
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:51 pm to
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Thornton and Collison were 22 year old rookies

Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18846 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:52 pm to
Well why are you criticizing Rivers and praising Marshall when Marshall has been the worst lottery pick by a mile, has worse numbers, and was sent to the D League?

Even in the summer league Rivers was better.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 8:52 pm
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:55 pm to
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Well why are you criticizing Rivers and praising Marshall when Marshall has been the worst lottery pick by a mile, has worse numbers, and was sent to the D League?
Because they have had different roster situations. Playing time for both hasn't been dictated by skill on the court, it's been dictated by Marshall being the 4th guard on the depth chart, and Rivers being the 2/3 guard on the depth chart.

Gordon's healthy, we keep Jack, and Rivers is the 4th guard on our roster, I promise you he's in the D-league by this point in the season. And if not, should be.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:57 pm to
Didn't Rivers have 15 and 6 the other night? He just needs to time to physically develop and adjust to the physicality of the game. Would sending him to the D-League help? Quite possibly. However, the team needs help now so I understand the coaches reluctance to ship him off just now

If any young guard on our team is never going to be a real contributor, it's Henry
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:58 pm to
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Because they have had different roster situations. Playing time for both hasn't been dictated by skill on the court, it's been dictated by Marshall being the 4th guard on the depth chart, and Rivers being the 2/3 guard on the depth chart.

Explain the numbers then

quote:

Gordon's healthy, we keep Jack, and Rivers is the 4th guard on our roster, I promise you he's in the D-league by this point in the season. And if not, should be.

He's still ahead of Henry and Mason Jr.


You just sound like a miserable person
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:59 pm to
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You have to be patient with such a raw prospect like Rivers. It may take him 3 or 4 seasons to start figuring things out.


So right about when his rookie contract is expiring? that makes absolutely zero sense.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18846 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:02 pm to
It makes no sense for a 20 year old raw prospect to take a few years to get comfortable in the NBA?
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:03 pm to
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He's still ahead of Henry and Mason Jr.
I could be ahead of Henry

And how do you say he's ahead of Mason when Mason starts every game and plays more minutes?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16431 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:06 pm to
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So right about when his rookie contract is expiring? that makes absolutely zero sense.


How does it make no sense? Hell, Aminu is doing it right now. He was awful (I mean, really really awful) his first 2 years. This year he is much better. He isn't a world beater but he's definitely much better and more capable. And Rivers is better than Aminu was his rookie year.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 9:06 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71973 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:10 pm to
This team is going to lose regardless.

Instead of D League, he gets time w nba players and nba coaching. That's valuable experience that will pay off in the long run.

A lot of great players struggle their first year or two
Posted by tigerbait16
Member since Apr 2011
729 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:15 pm to
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