Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order | Page 7 | TigerDroppings.com

Posted byMessage
tketaco
LSU Fan
NOLA: Lake View
Member since Jan 2010
8821 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Was looking up Combat Commanders and read that their Chain of Command goes from POTUS, Sec. Of Defense then the Combat Commander. So if an order to Stand Down was given, it would of started with one of the three.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
Conniejnn
LSU Fan
Jennings, LA
Member since Nov 2009
4 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


I found LINK video, very interesting!





Back to top
uway
USA Fan
Member since Sep 2004
19599 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


quote:

This thread has jumped to OT levels.


Thought there must be some mistake when I clicked through to TD.com from a link on Instapundit.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Reaganite
Arkansas Fan
Fort Smith
Member since Dec 2010
183 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


quote:

I found LINK video, very interesting!


This kinda sorta backs that up, believe it or not:

LINK /

The leader of Al-Qaeda is calling on Muslims to kidnap Westerners as a means to free imprisoned jihadists.

“We are seeking, by the help of Allah, to capture others and to incite Muslims to capture the citizens of the countries that are fighting Muslims in order to release our captives,” Ayman Al-Zawahri said in a more than two-hour video posted on militant web sites this week, Reuters reported.

The Egyptian-born jihadist called for the abductions as part of a vow not to “spare any efforts” to free Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, CNN reported. Abdel-Rahman is the so-called “blind sheikh” serving a life sentence in U.S. prison for masterminding the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

Al-Zawahri, who was No. 2 in Al-Qaeda under Osama bin Laden, also called for Muslims to support the uprising in Syria against Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad and to ensure that Egypt implements shariah law.

“The battle in Egypt is very clear. It is a battle between the secular minority that is allied with the church and that is leaning on the support of the army, who are made up by [former President Hosni] Mubarak and the Americans … and the Muslim ummah [nation] in Egypt that is seeking to implement shariah,” he said.

Al-Zawahri’s latest message came two weeks after he called for Muslims to wage holy war against the U.S. and Israel over an anti-Islam film the denigrated that Prophet Muhammad.



I guess about a year ago or so, when Egypt had our NGO people and diplomats under arrest and were getting ready to try them, there was talk that a back room deal had been done that would free those people (including the son of one of the cabinet members-can't remember which) in exchange for us releasing the blind sheik being held for the '93 WTC bombing.

They released our people, but the deal possibility began getting a lot of press and the admin disavowed it.

Your link above, combined with this certainly makes one go hmmmmmm.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
John McClane
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2010
26161 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


This sickens me





Back to top
coondaddy21
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
706 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


The only thing I might disagree with regards to that video is why in the Hell would Obama think he would be regarded as a Hero had he exchanged the Shiek for Stevens? I am not sure I buy the logic. I think the American People would be outraged if that man ever left prison.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
jr33
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2010
1014 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


The best thing to come out this debacle is the amount of leaks coming out of the white house. There is no way the amount of people in this white house administration on board with this. I have to believe there are many people who have been on the fence and are now realizing there are many people who will go down when this mess is revealed. I see people cutting bait cause this is probably the last straw and know in their HEARTs Obama is a bad guy. Most of the leaks coming out are gaining traction. The Ham firing may be the NAIL.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
CajunAngele
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
11168 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Tigerdroppings quoted in another article:

Questionable Reports: Africom General Ham and Rear Admiral Gaouette Replaced – Rumored Cover Connection to Benghazi Slaughter…. | The Last Refuge

LINK






Back to top
papasmurf1269
LSU Fan
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
14268 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Wow





Back to top
  Replies (0)
jamboybarry
LSU Fan
I Putt Out
Member since Feb 2011
11669 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


quote:

Tigerdroppings quoted in another article:


TD=MSM






Back to top
GRTiger
USA Fan
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
20176 posts
 Online 

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


quote:

And of course this common sense post gets pointedly ignored, while the foaming at the mouth continues.


So the OP posts inside knowledge, and it's foaming at the mouth. But someone else posts inside knowledge, and it happens to align with your beliefs, and it should be taken as fact.

Interesting. Some of us take both and consider it, but I won't judge your methods.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
LSUGrrrl
LSU Fan
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
6300 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Is any of this trending on twitter?





Back to top
coondaddy21
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
706 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Ambassador better watch out! I am sure they are monitoring internet chatter. This administration may find him and snuff him out.





Back to top
coondaddy21
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
706 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Remember when Obama said this:

quote:

the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we’re going to investigate exactly what happened so that it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice. ~ Obama


If the chain of command and the order to stand down has to come from the highest level, then this statement was a bold face lie!






Back to top
  Replies (0)
Navytiger74
LSU Fan
Washington
Member since Oct 2009
17775 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


quote:

Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group


The Stennis just chopped into theater about 10 days ago. Not sure what that has to do with an AFRICOM event, though. RDML Gaouette was relieved for something else.






Back to top
GRTiger
USA Fan
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
20176 posts
 Online 

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Navy, why did Ham get relieved? Is he going somewhere else, or retiring? I couldn't find anything online with that info. You said he was probably going in March of next year. Why do you think it came now instead?





Back to top
CajunAngele
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
11168 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


It all started on twitter see a few pages bck,probably be trending in the morning because both of these stories have comments saying Obama fired them both.

In which BTW, the one of these two that is a rear admiral and got pulled/relieved from duty does not have too many above his chain of command.C.O.'s of ships could get in trouble for hitting another U.S.S., iceberg,barge,sub. Or possibly letting his crew have too much liberty in Phucket, or some PC sex harrass crap. But a rear admiral in charge of the fleet of operations in the mideast is canned only by jug ears who sadly is CIC.






Back to top
Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2009
20536 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


Navytiger74, two service specific questions from a dogface;

1 - Was an ESG in the Med when the events unfolded?

2 - What is the size of a FAST?

Thanks.






Back to top
vodkacop
LSU Fan
GOM
Member since Nov 2008
2088 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


No actually you are wrong. If the general is told to keep his mouth shut and goes on fox and tells the truth then he can and will be court marshaled and imprisoned or obama can classify his frick up as top secret and the general can then be arrested for leaking top secret info, possibly even tried as a traitor for leaking obamas frick up. Try to learn a little more about the military before spouting nonsense.





Back to top
  Replies (0)
CajunAngele
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
11168 posts

re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order


What would a R Admiral be relieved for temporarily? Or is it just said to be temp until investigation;as he is innocent until proven guilty? Are O ranks subject to court martial?





Back to top
  Replies (0)


Back to top