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re: Giving ALL Americans an Opportunity to go to college is such bullshite


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There's already too many stupid people in college



They get dumber every year.






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bbrownso
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re: Giving ALL Americans an Opportunity to go to college is such bullshite


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To quote Judge Smails: "The world needs ditch diggers too."


This is remarkably true.

Some interesting stuff from Mike Rowe

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The fact is, I went to Ohio to discuss jobs and talk about my Big Idea – namely the importance of a long-term PR Campaign for Skilled Labor as a way of closing the skills gap. That’s all. It’s the same message I’ve been peddling for the last four years, and a PR campaign is not something that either candidate has publicly discussed. Sure, they talk about infrastructure projects and training programs, but those comments are always made in the context of “job creation.” But closing the Skills Gap is different than “creating jobs.” In fact, it’s the opposite because the Skills Gap does not reflect a lack of opportunity – it reflects a lack of interest. A lack of desire. That’s scary, and worth talking about.

Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I’ve seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast. For every four workers that leave the workforce, only one enters to replace them. Our Skills Gap is a mathematical nightmare, and it’s playing out all over the country. The result? Hundreds of thousands of jobs that companies simply cannot fill. It’s a massive problem that no one talks about, because in most people’s minds a labor shortage can’t exist while unemployment is over 8%. But the facts are clear, and the gap is real.

To close the gap, we need to first change perceptions about the definition of a “good job.” It’s simply unrealistic to expect our kids to get excited about careers that society disparages as “dumb, dirty, or dangerous.” We have to remove the stigmas and stereotypes associated with skilled labor, and stop portraying legitimate opportunities as some sort of “vocational consolation prize.” That means letting go of the absurd belief that a four-year degree is the only sensible way to acquire useful knowledge and have a good career. In other words, we need a PR Campaign for Skilled Labor, not just for the benefit of skilled workers, but for the benefit of people who rely on their work… meaning all of us. What could be more bi-partisan?


Less people need to go get college degrees and more need to get some increasingly valuable skills.



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JohnnyKilroy
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re: Giving ALL Americans an Opportunity to go to college is such bullshite


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Stating that some people shouldn't have the opportunity to attend college is moronic


The irony here is that the notion that "everyone should go to college" is exactly what removes this opportunity.

In 2012 you cannot attend LSU and pay full freight for 4 years on your own. No loans. No parents. You just simply can't make enough money (while in school) to make tuition payments + rent + food + everything else and still keep up with your studies. You would need to be clearing 20-25k a year after taxes which is simply not realistic while being a full time student. And lsu is dirt cheap compared to many state 4 year universities.

We need to "make college more affordable" (through gov backed guaranteed loans) is exactly wht is causing tuition to fricking skyrocket.

Econ 101: as the supply of money rises so do prices.

Schools can and do basically raise tuition every single year and there are no consequences. The banks will continue loan the money. Higher education costs are rising FASTER than healthcare.

Perfect example: an LSU law degree ran you about 3k in 1984. In state tuition for 3 years of LSU law runs you close to 50k today. OOS runs you over 100k. But more people can "afford" it than ever before.


Also, 100k+ in student loans are just numbers on fricking paper to a college student. What the frick do 18 year old kids know about making a commitment that large? Nothing. And the banks are more than willing to give then every penny the student/schools ask for. They are guaranteed. Can't be discharged in bankruptcy. You only get rid of it when you pay it back.






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crimsonsaint
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re: Giving ALL Americans an Opportunity to go to college is such bullshite


I borrowed that term from Les.





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Interception
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re: Giving ALL Americans an Opportunity to go to college is such bullshite


You mean like giving everyone a house?





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Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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re: Giving ALL Americans an Opportunity to go to college is such bullshite


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If you want a College degree and cannot aford it then you need to bust your arse in High School... stay out of trouble and be serious about it.... Not just give it to the less fortunate because they are a minority or they are poor.


While I agree with this it does not give you a pass on College tuition. I busted my arse in high school (over 3.5 and 7th in my class) and had decent ACT's but I was one point short of a scholarship for LSU. However there was and still is a program that will send you to College at a very reduced rate. My senior year of high school I joined the National Guard and paid $100 per semester to attend LSU. Others can attend College using this same route but they have to be willing to do what is necessary. It seems most young people want everything given to them without an sacrifice. You have to pay to play.






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RTR America
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Prove that he's done more drugs then most Americans. Hell George Bush was a drug addict and an alcoholic. I bet you would never say that about Bush. Let's be fair, oh I forgot you right wingers could careless about fairness. God is watching.


Go read his autobiographies. He talks about his drug use a lot.






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JombieZombie
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I agree that there's way too many kids in college that are still destined to make my Gordida Crunches.





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Godfather1
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re: Giving ALL Americans an Opportunity to go to college is such bullshite


It's very much like the "home ownership is a fundamental right" bull shite that helped get us into the housing mess.





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