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Selling stock - Q4 2012 vs Q1 2013

Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:11 am
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:11 am
I have some stock I'm looking to sell soon and was wondering if my understanding of the tax cuts and potential fiscal cliff is correct. Preferably, I'd like to sell these shares in 2013 to not have to worry about them for 2012 tax purposes, but if I wait till 2013, I will be subject to a 20% tax on capital gains vs a 15% if I sell in 2012? Is that correct?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:36 am to
If you wait until 2013, you will potentially be looking at a higher capital gains rate depending on the actions Congress takes (also depending on your holding period - ST or LT).

General rule of thumb, never let a tax decision drive an economic one. However, it the decision is purely a tax one, I would advise selling in 2012.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 9:38 am
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:03 am to
Sell your winners and your losers in 2012 and then buy your losers back in 30 days.

ETA: I am in tax 1 and I would ignore me.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 11:07 am
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:16 am to
Well, at least you have learned the wash sale rules.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Sell your winners and your losers in 2012

What is this "losers" thing you're referring to?
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:47 am to
quote:

What is this "losers" thing you're referring to?


Any sort of capital losses you can accumulate.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Well, at least you have learned the wash sale rules


88 on my first test, I am pretty much the second coming of poodle.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 11:50 am
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2796 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 12:11 pm to
I have given it some thought. I cashed in a mutual fund my wife and I had opened years ago to put some money aside for my daughter’s wedding. She was married earlier this year. We had a very nice long term capital gain. I was thinking about selling 2 stocks that I can take long term capital losses on to offset the nice gain. On a side note the Money Talk’s infamous MVIS is one of the two. However, I am also considering holding on to the two losers and instead sell them post 2012 to offset some other winners on which it looks like I might, in future years, have to pay a higher LT capital gains rate.

Any thoughts on holding on to some loser’s to sell later if LT capital gains rates increase?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Any thoughts on holding on to some loser’s to sell later if LT capital gains rates increase?


I approve if that means anything. I think it is likely cap gain rates do rise, so I think it is a good idea.
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4180 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

General rule of thumb, never let a tax decision drive an economic one..
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:50 pm to
The correct thing to do is to sell the stock that is about to go down and buy the stock that is about to go up.
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