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Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:18 pm
Posted by i10Duck
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:18 pm
Is it forecasted to send the ducks south faster?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45805 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:20 pm to
No water and less food is not going to be an incentive for ducks to stay north. A cold winter could make this the best ever...
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:23 pm to
we need water here SOOOOOO bad
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
frick Bama
Member since Jul 2012
4635 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:27 pm to
Texas no water=more ducks south la
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61597 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:27 pm to
I'm hoping for a really cold winter, problem solved
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57220 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Is it forecasted to send the ducks south faster?


Yes, and more of them, according the the Delta Waterfowl article I read this afternoon!
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30546 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:31 pm to
A wet winter could slow em down
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:43 pm to
My buddy in Kansas sent me a video yesterday of about a hundred geese landing in his back pasture. He has ducks as well, If they don't make it here I will just kindly go meet the bastards a little further north,but damn I hope they make it to central la Kansas is far.
Posted by tkr1407
Nawfiest Laweezianna
Member since Aug 2011
3132 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

A cold winter could make this the best ever...

Posted by SCUBABlake
RIP WT6
Member since Jan 2008
40338 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:58 pm to
has the rain not been making it out your way recently?

we've gotten some here the past few days, but even farther north has gotten even more.
Posted by greasemonkey
Macclenny Fl aka south JAWJA
Member since Aug 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 6:15 pm to
I wish we could send some of our rain your way..
we floatin here..
Posted by bossflossjr
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
12262 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 6:18 pm to
Yes, drought up north will send more ducks south - faster. Google the Delta Waterfowl article printed earlier this month......its on flight and feeding patterns and mentions Louisiana. Those that have water on the flight path will get ducks. The less water enroute - the quicker they reach the marsh. Should be a good year for all of us in Louisiana.
Posted by SCUBABlake
RIP WT6
Member since Jan 2008
40338 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 6:20 pm to
Yeah.

We had a good rain on Saturday night, first one in a long time. Gotten some sprinkles here and there, but nothing too crazy.

I need to go check my grandmother's pond to see how much it filled up from the rain the other night. Needed water in that thing in the worst way.
Posted by Bandit30
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2011
2208 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 6:29 pm to
Everybody is in a drought but not me
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
4204 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:22 pm to
Couple reports on DU have a BWT arriving at a decent rate already, saying a bunch of greys, and other big ducks are showing up too.

3 Weeks til shoot time
Posted by Howard Juneau
Cocodrie, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2218 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:46 pm to
Duck hunting season looks good this year, the future is a different matter Bob Marshall, The Times-Picayune 08/18/2012 7:46 PM

Here's the good news for the local duck season: There's record drought gripping states to the north of us. Here's the bad news: There's record drought gripping the states north of us.

Here's the worst news: Many of your congressmen are working against regulations that have protected wetlands against drought.

OK, let's take the news in order.

The good

If you hunt on the wintering end of the flyway, it's always helpful when habitat conditions north of you encourage ducks to move southward. And the best conditions up north for forcing birds to Louisiana earlier and in larger numbers than usual is a dry summer followed by a cold, dry winter.

That isn't a guess; it's a matter of research done by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

"The study published in 1984 tracked the distribution of mallard band recoveries on the flyway," recalled biologist Larry Reynolds, waterfowl study leader for the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. "It showed clearly dry, cold winters (north of us) were best for our hunting, while the worst combination for us was warm, wet winters.

"In those dry, cold winters recovery of the bands shifted strongly to the southern end of the flyway, and in warm, wet winters, they shifted strongly to the north. In average winters, the distribution was spread pretty evenly."

While that study (like most) was done on a species that isn't a major part of the local bag -- mallards -- Reynolds believes it will apply equally well, if not more strongly, to species most important to local hunters because they are all early migrants: blue-winged teal, gadwall (grey ducks), pintail and shovelers (spoonies).

"When I was in graduate school, I hunted the Atchafalaya Basin and religiously scouted the area before the season," he said. "And I remember one year when there was a severe drought north of us, and the delta was absolutely covered up with the early migrants.

"If this drought holds, I think we'll see the same thing this year. If those early migrants can't find suitable habitat for stopovers on their way south, they will probably come south quicker."

Of course, the conditions to the north wouldn't mean much if local conditions were not good, but they are. Our marshes are wet and thick with plants that serve as prime duck food.

Now all we need is to ride through the peak of tropical storm season without a hit.

The bad

Aside from the significant human and economic costs of the drought, local waterfowlers should also be concerned about the future impact it is certain to have on waterfowl production. The area going dry extends into some of the nation's most important waterfowl nesting grounds, including the prairie potholes in the Dakotas.

And things are only expected to get worse. Research published this month not only links the current record drought to global warming, but indicates it will continue for decades to come.

Those of us who were hunting in the 1980s remember the droughts that dropped waterfowl production so low seasons were reduced to 30 days with three-duck daily limits. That dry period was not as severe or as long-lasting as the current drought is predicted to be, yet it dealt a severe blow to waterfowling participation. That set off a crisis in funding for management and conservation because those critical functions were paid for largely by sportsmen licenses and excise taxes.

Indeed, it was those lean times that were the impetus behind the push that led to the North American Wetlands Conservation Act, the package of regulations and conservation initiatives designed to maintain a solid habitat base for the future.

And that brings us to the next headline.

The worst

This warming, drying climate is arriving at the same time some in Congress are pushing to reduce funding for conservation programs like NAWCA and to roll back regulatory protection on wetlands and other wildlife habitat. The bitter irony is that the regulations under attack were designed to provide a hedge against just such changes in environmental conditions.

Louisiana waterfowlers should know that their GOP House delegation, most of whom claim to be pro-sportsmen, have been voting with this herd against regulations needed to protect waterfowl habitat.

Two examples: Their opposed reinstatement of protections for temporary, isolated wetlands removed by Supreme Court decisions; they voted to prevent federal agencies from enforcing new wetlands guidance from the White House that could limit the damage of those court decisions.

Without those regulations when many of the prairie potholes -- which are "temporary isolated wetlands" -- dry up during this drought, they can now be permanently turned into cropland. When that happens, waterfowl production will plummet.

So, if we're covered with teal and gray ducks this fall due to the drought up north, enjoy the hunting. But also consider the costs if nothing changes in Washington.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:53 pm to
The only problem with the low river where I hunt in Venice is that the salt water is starting to kill a lot of the feed. There should be a ton of ducks. Just not sure if they will stay long without a lot of feed.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15846 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:47 pm to
You can only hope.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:48 pm to
i have lots of water. aint ever skerred
Posted by Kyrie Eleison
Waco, Texas
Member since Jul 2012
1560 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Texas no water=more ducks south la


East Texas and Upper Texas Coast has plenty of water.

MORE than enough...

it's going to rain ducks this year.
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