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Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:28 pm to
What a dick!
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 7:08 am to
Good grief.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:43 am to
TIFWIW, but looks like GRRM and HBO may be in talks to do something with Dunk & Egg.

LINK /

ETA - The article I linked is dated from a month ago, but I've seen three tweets in the past 24 hours about a IGN interview where he talks more about it. IGN is blocked for me at work
This post was edited on 3/20/13 at 9:48 am
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:57 am to
I'd love to see a good movie based on D&E

:fingerscrossed:
This post was edited on 3/20/13 at 10:58 am
Posted by Papercutninja
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 11:03 am to
I fully believe that this is how HBO will fill in the GoT gap while they wait for Martin to get off his arse and finish the WoW and A Dream of Spring.

Sidenote: For some reason everytime I try and picture Duncan, all I can see is Micheal Phelps. Its very troubling.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 11:37 am to
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Duncan, Micheal Phelps


:mouthbreathers:

very appropriate.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 3:17 pm to
Here's a link to a 1.5 hour long roundtable discussion with Sansa, Arya, GRRM, Cersei, Tyrion, moderator, DB Weiss, David Benioff, Jon, Cat, and Jaime. Very awesome and worth a watch. Don't let the time turn you off. Flies by

Sophie Turner is seriously one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen. I have to marry a chick that looks like her

nb4pedo,imonly 3 years older

LINK
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 5:19 pm to
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Sophie Turner is seriously one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen. I have to marry a chick that looks like her


Are you saying you have a ring for her Little finger?

:rimshot:
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 5:27 pm to
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Carson123987


Thanks for that link.

BTW: I was reading a little about the Dunk and Egg tales and forget how they were not really that far removed from the present GOT era.

Here is a little history......... and how the Dunk and Egg tales tie-in to GOT from Wiki.

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Ser Duncan the Tall is listed among notable Commanders of the Kingsguard when Jaime Lannister is self-reflecting in A Storm of Swords, chapter 69. In the same chapter it is mentioned in the recordings of Barristan Selmy that he defeated Ser Duncan the Tall in the winter tourney of King's Landing.

From the genealogy chart of Targaryens in the reference section of A Game of Thrones, it shows that Egg would become King Aegon V (the Unlikely) and rule from 233-259. This was confirmed in A Clash of Kings, where it is revealed that Egg's brother Maester Aemon was offered the throne, he refused and suggested that Egg rule instead. As king, Egg wanted Aemon to help him rule, but Aemon chose to continue his maestering work and went to the Wall instead.

In A Storm of Swords, Prince Oberyn Martell remarks that “In the days of the Targaryens, a man who struck one of the blood royal would lose the hand he struck him with,” a situation which arises in The Hedge Knight.

In A Feast for Crows, Brienne has her shield painted with arms that match Dunk's. Brienne takes the arms from a shield she remembers seeing in her father's armory. Also in A Feast for Crows Brienne arrives at an inn owned by a girl whose last name is Heddle (possible descendant of Black Tom Heddle who is killed by Dunk in the Mystery Knight).

Also in A Feast for Crows, Maester Aemon mentions Egg's name several times in his delirium. It is revealed that one of Egg's daughters married a son of House Baratheon and became the mother of Lord Steffon Baratheon, and thus the grandmother of Robert, Renly and Stannis Baratheon. In the bonus features for Season One of Game of Thrones (on Blu-ray), Robert Baratheon states that this heritage is what allowed him to lay claim to the Iron Throne.

In A Dance with Dragons, the memories of Ser Barristan Selmy revealed that the sons of Egg had chosen their own wives for love, rather than accept matches for political advantage. Egg allowed his children their heart's desire, because he himself had also wed for love. According to Ser Barristan Selmy, this led to resentment and treason amongst the lords, ultimately leading to the "tragedy of Summerhall."
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:21 pm to
Does anyone have a link to the Dunk and Egg stories?

I'd normally go back and check through the thread but this thing is so colossal it'd be like reading one of the books
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:31 pm to
whats your email?

i have them all in epubs
This post was edited on 3/20/13 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Here's a link to a 1.5 hour long roundtable discussion with Sansa, Arya, GRRM, Cersei, Tyrion, moderator, DB Weiss, David Benioff, Jon, Cat, and Jaime. Very awesome and worth a watch. Don't let the time turn you off. Flies by

Sophie Turner is seriously one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen. I have to marry a chick that looks like her

nb4pedo,imonly 3 years older

LINK



That was definitely worth the watch

I think Michelle Fairley (Catelyn Stark) was a little tipsy
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:48 pm to
me too. she seems like a really cool woman
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:52 pm to


thanks
This post was edited on 3/20/13 at 10:01 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:00 pm to
sent, you can edit
Posted by 19
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:42 am to
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In A Storm of Swords, Prince Oberyn Martell remarks that “In the days of the Targaryens, a man who struck one of the blood royal would lose the hand he struck him with,” a situation which arises


Man, it's little tid-bits like that that I must've glossed over that just make my day.

All hail the crackpot thread!

quote:

Egg allowed his children their heart's desire, because he himself had also wed for love. According to Ser Barristan Selmy, this led to resentment and treason amongst the lords, ultimately leading to the "tragedy of Summerhall."


Well, that makes sense, especially if Egg's father had made betrothals (verbals, at least, if not written) with major Houses that Egg allowed to be broken. I'd bet anything Walder Frey had a hand in it.
Sucks, though, cuz I had a theory it (Summerhall) was to do with dragon hatching...which would bring a new twist to Aegon V's nickname. Possible that both are true in the form of a sabotaged ritual...
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 8:49 am
Posted by weaglebeagle
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:52 am to
Seriously, just havingn read the first two Dunk and Egg novellas I was looking for clues. I remember Aemon calling out to Egg in his delirium. For some reason I thought the shield that Brienne had was the same as Duncan's. I did completely forget about Dunk being one of the Kingsguard though.

I would like it if they just made Dunk and Egg a mini series or a tv movie. I've also heard the rumors of a series about Robert's rebellion. That would be wonderful. I do wonder how casual fans of the TV series would react to the show being gone for a couple of years if they decide to use those stories to buy GRRM some time. I know that's not uncommon for HBO shows.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:57 am to
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For some reason I thought the shield that Brienne had was the same as Duncan's.


Well, not the actual shield, but she copied the sigil for sure. Is that what you mean?

I still see this as an implication that she is descended from Dunk, especially if his old shield was found at Tarth, then he was there at some point - Perhaps he refused to ransom won armor back, or he left it on purpose, a symbol of protection for his secret off-spring-to-be who would be raised in Tarth as the assumed true-born of a Lord. Hoping the next D&E explains the Tarth connection.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 9:02 am
Posted by BlackleafBaller
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:59 am to
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Hoping the next D&E explains the Tarth connection.


I think it is about Winterfell.
Posted by weaglebeagle
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:00 am to
Yeah, that's what I meant. Well maybe not, but my memory can only hold so much. I knew they were related somehow.
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