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Athlon Debate on Les as a Coach
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:07 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:07 am
It blows me away how little respect Les continues to get from the National media although he has close to a 80% win percentage, 2 SEC's and 1 National in 7 years at LSU. They are all quick to deify Saban, who was beaten by Miles last season at his place in Primetime. Bama and Saban used politics to undeservedly play for the title last year. They didn't even win their own division. How is that on another level. I don't feel like Saban is on another level. Give me a break. He is great for sure, but Les is 3-3 against God, soon to be 4-3. The guy who said if Petrino were still at Arky, then Les would be the 3rd best coach in the West. LOL WUT!!! Did he watch the Arky game last year. How many SEC titles does Petrino have again? National Titles?
I also love the fact the National Media continues to credit Les Miles success to the Roster and Recruiting Base. As if Nick Saban doesn't have the same advantages, with TTown in middle of Georgia and Florida.
I can give Saban credit for laying the foundation, as they point out. But, did LES MILES do the same for OKIE ST and Gundy. You bet your arse he did. Only one guy mentions LES's foundation at Okie St, and did it after he claims Petrino to be a good coach. That's kind of confusing.
I hope we arse pound everyone again this year, and LES sticks it up their arse.
Athlon Blows
I also love the fact the National Media continues to credit Les Miles success to the Roster and Recruiting Base. As if Nick Saban doesn't have the same advantages, with TTown in middle of Georgia and Florida.
I can give Saban credit for laying the foundation, as they point out. But, did LES MILES do the same for OKIE ST and Gundy. You bet your arse he did. Only one guy mentions LES's foundation at Okie St, and did it after he claims Petrino to be a good coach. That's kind of confusing.
I hope we arse pound everyone again this year, and LES sticks it up their arse.
Athlon Blows
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 11:19 am
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Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:08 am to jdg91878
:nb4TheBaseballCrowdSaysItsSuperRegionalTimeWhyAreWeTalkingFootball:
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:23 am to jdg91878
Most of the commentators in that article have good things to say about Les. What am I missing?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:29 am to jdg91878
So you think Miles is a better coach than Saban? I agree that Miles doesn't get the respect he may deserve, but can you really disagree with anyone who says that Saban is clearly the best coach in the SEC?
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:29 am to TigerHoo
Let em blow sunshine up Saban/Alabama's skirt...
And yes, lets just Pound the snot out of our opponents..
And yes, lets just Pound the snot out of our opponents..
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:30 am to jdg91878
1/9 set him back 2 years imo (national media perception)
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:34 am to The Mick
The Mick is exactly right...Tiger fans might as well get used to it. Fair or not, January 9 will be mentioned by the national media in every discussion about Les Miles' coaching abilities for the foreseeable future, and maybe for his entire career.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:35 am to The Mick
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1/9 set him back 2 years imo (national media perception)
Yes I agree with you however what about Saban's UAB and ULM moments?
Lets face it, Miles is an easy target due to his idiosyncracies...
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:36 am to TigerHoo
quote:
Most of the commentators in that article have good things to say about Les. What am I missing?
point it out to me too, because I thought that was a pretty fair piece. I counted 3 guys mentioning what he did at OSU.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:38 am to The Mick
quote:
1/9 set him back 2 years imo (national media perception)
not if we're 14-0 in January
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:40 am to jdg91878
quote:
It blows me away how little respect Les continues to get from the National media although he has close to a 80% win percentage, 2 SEC's and 1 National in 7 years at LSU. They are all quick to deify Saban, who was beaten by Miles last season at his place in Primetime. Bama and Saban used politics to undeservedly play for the title last year. They didn't even win their own division. How is that on another level. I don't feel like Saban is on another level.
Is there really any question as to why national commentators conclude that Saban is a better coach? Saban humiliated Miles in the single biggest contest of the entire 2011 college football season - the BCS national championship. Saban devised a clever gameplan full of adaptations and adjustments that stymied LSU while Miles predictably trotted out a wrote gameplan that was doomed to fail from the outset, and then refused to alter that gameplan when it became abundantly clear that it wasn't working. The result was a 21-0 shellacking in which LSU never even crossed mid-field. That is the lingering impression that was left with college football afficianados for the entire offseason. Saban has now won two of the last three NC's. Is there any wonder that the pundits think Saban is superior?
If Miles wanted to be considered Saban's peer, he shouldn't have gotten his arse whipped in New Orleans. I really can't muster any righteous indignation against CFB writers who endorse Saban.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 11:41 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:45 am to jdg91878
Overall, seems like a pretty positive and fair assessment of him. There's not much I can disagree with there.
Every coach has his flaws, even St. Nick. Miles' screw-ups just seem to be more high-profile than others, and his eccentricities make for good media fodder.
But who else are you going to take (other than Nick)? Meyer, who basically quit for the past 2 years? Stoops, who can't win the big game? Mack Brown and Mark Richt have their pick of 2 of the most talent-rich states in the country and can't do better than Miles.
There is no perfect coach out there, but Miles is great for LSU and has done a superb job, warts and all.
Every coach has his flaws, even St. Nick. Miles' screw-ups just seem to be more high-profile than others, and his eccentricities make for good media fodder.
But who else are you going to take (other than Nick)? Meyer, who basically quit for the past 2 years? Stoops, who can't win the big game? Mack Brown and Mark Richt have their pick of 2 of the most talent-rich states in the country and can't do better than Miles.
There is no perfect coach out there, but Miles is great for LSU and has done a superb job, warts and all.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:48 am to klrstix
quote:let's not forget that big steaming pile of shite he laid against Utah in the sugar bowl no less
Yes I agree with you however what about Saban's UAB and ULM moments?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:48 am to klrstix
quote:He has overcome that, and so can Miles. Saban was also never viewed as a goof ball. Miles was and worked his way into a "quirky but great coach". Now he's back to quirky and questionable coach.
Yes I agree with you however what about Saban's UAB and ULM moments?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:50 am to The Mick
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Now he's back to quirky and questionable coach.
quirky? yes
questionable? only by morons
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:50 am to jdg91878
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:52 am to The312
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Miles predictably trotted out a wrote gameplan
is that what happened? he wrote it down, lost it, and Bama found it?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:55 am to ATLTiger
Compare ANY coach to Saban and you'll get the same result......
Sooooo......just ignore this shite while Miles continues to win.
And beat Bama in November....
I just laugh at this shite now.......
Sooooo......just ignore this shite while Miles continues to win.
And beat Bama in November....
I just laugh at this shite now.......
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:57 am to The312
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Saban devised a clever gameplan full of adaptations and adjustments that stymied LSU while Miles predictably trotted out a wrote gameplan that was doomed to fail from the outset,
Ya mean he used that great D to make our QB try and throw the ball......???
frickin Genius
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:57 am to The Mick
Every coach loses games, every coach loses games to "lesser" teams. Saban losing to UAB and ULM in his first year taking over losing teams is meaningless and not comprable to losing in the BCS CG. Its really silly to bring those up.
I did not see the debate in question, but in my expirience Miles gets a lot more respect from national media than he does from LSU fans. That said he has always been polarizing. Some felt he was just living off "Sabans players" his first 3 years and 08 up thru the 2010 UT game confirmed it in their eyes. Beating Bama in 2010 and again on 11/5 changed that, the debacle on 1/9 set him back in their eyes again. I do agree that a win on 11/3 and NC will mostly erase 1/9/12.
I did not see the debate in question, but in my expirience Miles gets a lot more respect from national media than he does from LSU fans. That said he has always been polarizing. Some felt he was just living off "Sabans players" his first 3 years and 08 up thru the 2010 UT game confirmed it in their eyes. Beating Bama in 2010 and again on 11/5 changed that, the debacle on 1/9 set him back in their eyes again. I do agree that a win on 11/3 and NC will mostly erase 1/9/12.
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