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Projectpat 
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| EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:46 am)
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Assuming this isn't all a bunch of smoke and mirrors, I'm honestly surprised. I thought this would be the next anti-energy rallying cry for the gov't.
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gonads&strife 
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:52 am to Projectpat)
OMG, Obama isn't killing the O&G industry!!!
Idiots.
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KeyserSoze999 
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:06 am to Projectpat)
that is until it becomes a world threat in the form of too many earthquakes
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then, stop the presses, a fracking moratorium
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Cold Pizza 
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:06 am to Projectpat)
Frack away!
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BROffshoreTigerFan 
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:08 am to Projectpat)
Well, looks like I get to keep feeding my kids for another few years.
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Holden Caulfield
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:10 am to Projectpat)
Election year.
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RollTide1987 
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:21 am to gonads&strife)
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OMG, Obama isn't killing the O&G industry!!!
It's an election year.
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gonads&strife
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:22 am to RollTide1987)
He didn't kill it the previous 3 non-election years, either.
Furthermore, who is he pandering to by not banning fracking?
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Projectpat
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:26 am to gonads&strife)
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Furthermore, who is he pandering to by not banning fracking?
...people who are pro-domestic production?
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los angeles tiger
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:27 am to Projectpat)
Probably pressured by the Mexican government regarding this. There have been a few quakes in Mexico the last few weeks. Fracking Mexicans!!!
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C
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:28 am to gonads&strife)
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, who is he pandering to by not banning fracking?
people who like lower energy costs and more domestic jobs... minority of the public I know, but still could be significant come november.
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gonads&strife
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:30 am to Projectpat)
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...people who are pro-domestic production?
As the lines are drawn today, do you think that they are going to vote for him now? 
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gonads&strife
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:33 am to C)
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EPA says no fracking rules until 2015
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, who is he pandering to by not banning fracking?
people who like lower energy costs and more domestic jobs... minority of the public I know, but still could be significant come november.
The election is in Nov. If you banned fracking right now, at this very moment, the price of nat gas and even oil (fracking is still primarily associated with gas) would not move the price up enough to elicit the most minor complaint about pricing by the election date and probably for a while thereafter.
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Projectpat
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:34 am to gonads&strife)
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As the lines are drawn today, do you think that they are going to vote for him now?
Right, because there are absolutely zero people in the middle who are undecided.
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gonads&strife
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:35 am to Projectpat)
Yeah, the O&G industry and supporters are a bunch of fence sitters.
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wilfont
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:39 am to gonads&strife)
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If you banned fracking right now, at this very moment, the price of nat gas and even oil (fracking is still primarily associated with gas) would not move the price up enough to elicit the most minor complaint about pricing by the election date and probably for a while thereafter.
But that doesn't matter when you're pandering. Only perception matters.
Why is it assumed that only those opposed to obama's reelection would want an increased domestic output of oil and gas? Isn't reducing dependence on foreign oil the mandate of the Department of Energy?
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C
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:40 am to gonads&strife)
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If you banned fracking right now would not move the price up enough to elicit the most minor complaint
Are you delusional? 
ETA: Seriously I thought you knew more about gas markets and current national production that this post shows. I'm frankly shocked.
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Projectpat
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:40 am to gonads&strife)
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Yeah, the O&G industry and supporters are a bunch of fence sitters.
Well you've certainly got it figured out with all your smug posts. In the meantime, there are people in the middle who actually care about it from a general economic and job creation/maintenance perspective.
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gonads&strife
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:44 am to wilfont)
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Why is it assumed that only those opposed to obama's reelection would want an increased domestic output of oil and gas? Isn't reducing dependence on foreign oil the mandate of the Department of Energy?
But I thought it was a well known perception that Obama was trying to raise energy prices so that we would live in a alternative energy utopia. That was him pandering to his supporters....But now he's going to pander to the pro-fossil fuel crowd and alienate his base with a pro-fracking stance.
Earlier this week he was out to crush the industry and was referred to as Hitler for creating oversight of the 10 agencies coming up with frack regs, but now he's reversed course, but it's all pandering. Mixed fricking signals from the WH fo sho!
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los angeles tiger
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| re: EPA says no fracking rules until 2015 (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:44 am to wilfont)
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But that doesn't matter when you're pandering. Only perception matters.
Why is it assumed that only those opposed to obama's reelection would want an increased domestic output of oil and gas? Isn't reducing dependence on foreign oil the mandate of the Department of Energy?
I've questioned that as well as why environmentalists and the AGW crowd would rather we get our oil from nations that do not have the strict regulatory standards we have, to have it shipped from halfway around the world (which adds to supposed AGW)? The U.S. has the strictest standards to protect the environment so logically, wouldn't you want to see more drilling in the U.S.?
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