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ragacamps  LSU Fan Twin Cities Member since Jan 2011 1150 posts

| Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:51 p.m.)
Sanger believed that lighter-skinned races were superior to darker-skinned races, but would not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor any refusal to work within interracial projects. "Wikipedia" There are a few other books I have read on her. Ill find them and edit the post with the titles and authors. She was a true racist that thought she could control the population of minorities by contraceptives and later on abortion. The first planned parenthoods and most of them today are all located in poor parts of town with heavy black and latino populations. This is the esteemed founder of this shite racist and anti morals organization. As part of her efforts to promote birth control, Sanger found common cause with proponents of eugenics, believing that they both sought to "assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit."[72] Sanger was a proponent of negative eugenics, which aims to improve human hereditary traits through social intervention by reducing reproduction by those considered unfit. Sanger's eugenic policies included an exclusionary immigration policy, free access to birth control methods and full family planning autonomy for the able-minded, and compulsory segregation or sterilization for the profoundly retarded.[73][74] In her book The Pivot of Civilization, she advocated coercion to prevent the "undeniably feeble-minded" from procreating.[75] Although Sanger supported negative eugenics, she asserted that eugenics alone was not sufficient, and that birth control was essential to achieve her goals.[76][77][78]
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Antonio Moss  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2006 23088 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:53 p.m. to ragacamps)
Is Sanger a German name?
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Doctor Radical  LSU Fan Austin Member since Feb 2008 9692 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:54 p.m. to ragacamps)
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Wikipedia
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She was a true racist that thought she could control the population of minorities by contraceptives and later on abortion
Given that you already cited Wiki, the least you could have done was read all the way to the bottom of the page. Sanger was opposed to abortions, both because they were dangerous for the mother, and because she believed that life should not be terminated after conception. C'mon man.
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ragacamps  LSU Fan Twin Cities Member since Jan 2011 1150 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:56 p.m. to Doctor Radical)
Does that discredit all the other information. Come on Man Lets say a person is a racist and wants to control a population but is against abortion, are they a good person Come on Man Sanger Book on Eugenics
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Doctor Radical  LSU Fan Austin Member since Feb 2008 9692 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:58 p.m. to ragacamps)
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Lets say a person is a racist and wants to control a population but is against abortion, are they a good person
You said she wanted to control population through abortion. That's not accurate. She didn't support abortion. This is no longer about Sager...it's about you, either being willfully ignorant of a page you cited or simply lying about it.
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Taxing Authority  LSU Fan Houston Member since Feb 2010 10917 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:59 p.m. to ragacamps)
Racism is perfectly acceptable to liberals if the person adopts enough of the liberal agenda. Witness: Robert Byrd.
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ragacamps  LSU Fan Twin Cities Member since Jan 2011 1150 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:01 p.m. to Doctor Radical)
I said through contraceptives and later abortion. Planned parenthood started abortions in the 60's. If you have ever read any books about her you would find that she thought the techniques of her day were savage and brutal but was quoted several times as stating a safer and less savage method would be useful.
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ragacamps  LSU Fan Twin Cities Member since Jan 2011 1150 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:02 p.m. to ragacamps)
Only a lib could defend a person with the same views as Hitler. Truly Amazing. Im pro choice by the way .. States should choose. As an individual Im pro life
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DCRebel  Ole Miss Fan John Boehner's House Member since Aug 2009 9444 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:04 p.m. to ragacamps)
The Founding Fathers were philanderers and slaveowners. Isaac Newton was an alchemist. Ghandi didn't like black people. I don't really know or really care who Margaret Sanger is. My point is that your attempts to belittle Planned Parenthood as an organization based on the moral shortcomings of its founder is highly flawed.
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LSUnKaty  LSU Fan Katy, TX Member since Dec 2008 1344 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:06 p.m. to Antonio Moss)
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Is Sanger a German name?
This +100000000000000 
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Patrick O Rly  New Orleans Saints Fan Online, US Member since Aug 2011 12976 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:06 p.m. to DCRebel)
Yeah, it is ridiculous. I'd rather belittle them on the grounds of all the human life they've help put to an end.
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RedStickBR  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2009 8087 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:06 p.m. to DCRebel)
You don't find it ironic she viewed it as a way to supress the AA population and now in some places more AA children are aborted than are born? That wouldn't make you stop and think if you were a pro-abort AA?
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ragacamps  LSU Fan Twin Cities Member since Jan 2011 1150 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:08 p.m. to DCRebel)
No it isnt. Jesus or you stupid or so blinded by agenda. The entire organizations purpose was to slow the rate of population growth among minorities. The truth is that they still are doing that today. Whether or not it is the soul purpose of the org. or not is not important. The fact remains they are. Let me know when a planned parenthood opens up in an all white country club community.
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Antonio Moss  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2006 23088 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:08 p.m. to DCRebel)
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My point is that your attempts to belittle Planned Parenthood as an organization based on the moral shortcomings of its founder is highly flawed.
It's not completely unjustified. Sanger's racism and the racial motivation behind the inception of PP are pretty well documented. Now, if you want to argue that this initial motivation in no longer valid, then I think that's a fair argument. Although you would obviously struggle arguing against the actual effects of the practice. And, PP can be criticized on several other topics. Unlike a lot of non-liberal posters, I do think there are some positive qualities about PP, although I don't think they outweigh the negatives. and
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The Founding Fathers were philanderers
Seriously, god bless those sons of bitches.
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LSUgusto  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 12502 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:11 p.m. to DCRebel)
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your attempts to belittle Planned Parenthood as an organization based on the moral shortcomings of its founder is highly flawed.
Did you chastise the left for attacking Brinker the way they did, rather than the organization?
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ragacamps  LSU Fan Twin Cities Member since Jan 2011 1150 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:13 p.m. to LSUgusto)
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your attempts to belittle Planned Parenthood as an organization based on the moral shortcomings of its founder is highly flawed.
So if the nazis were still around today and pushing their agenda, would you use this same logic when talking about Hitler and the other leaders of the party???
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DCRebel  Ole Miss Fan John Boehner's House Member since Aug 2009 9444 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:13 p.m. to RedStickBR)
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You don't find it ironic she viewed it as a way to supress the AA population
Considering that, according to another poster, she was anti-abortion, yeah that'd be ironic in itself.
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and now in some places more AA children are aborted than are born?
Correlation much? If you can PROVE that Planned Parenthood is deliberately targeting minorities for abortions due to bigotry or racism, then you'd have a point.
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That wouldn't make you stop and think if you were a pro-abort AA?
I can formulate my own reasons to be for or against abortions. I don't need another person's or organization's views to validate that.
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asurob1  Arizona State Fan Arizona Member since May 2009 3678 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:16 p.m. to ragacamps)
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So if the nazis were still around today and pushing their agenda, would you use this same logic when talking about Hitler and the other leaders of the party???
Good to see Godwin's law is in full force today. 
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ragacamps  LSU Fan Twin Cities Member since Jan 2011 1150 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:17 p.m. to DCRebel)
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Correlation much? If you can PROVE that Planned Parenthood is deliberately targeting minorities for abortions due to bigotry or racism, then you'd have a point.
As part of her efforts to promote birth control, Sanger found common cause with proponents of eugenics, believing that they both sought to "assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit."[72] Sanger was a proponent of negative eugenics, which aims to improve human hereditary traits through social intervention by reducing reproduction by those considered unfit. Sanger believed that lighter-skinned races were superior to darker-skinned races, Now . Google search for zipcodes where planned parenthoods are located. Do a zipskinny.com on them. Now tell me what the breakdown is on racial demographics of where these places are located. If you cant understand after all of that. It is hopeless
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DCRebel  Ole Miss Fan John Boehner's House Member since Aug 2009 9444 posts

| re: Margaret Sanger. The Founder of Planned Parenthood (Posted on 2/3/12 at 1:17 p.m. to ragacamps)
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No it isnt.
It isn't what?
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Jesus or you stupid or so blinded by agenda
What agenda?
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The entire organizations purpose was to slow the rate of population growth among minorities.
Link?
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The truth is that they still are doing that today.
Even if this were the case (hell, benefit of the doubt, it is the case), it still doesn't at all prove that Planned Parenthood is some eugenicist club.
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Whether or not it is the soul purpose of the org. or not is not important.
THAT IS ENTIRELY IMPORTANT. The whole crux of the argument that Planned Parenthood is a front for the practice of eugenics relies on the intent of the organization!
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Let me know when a planned parenthood opens up in an all white country club community.
There are several planned parenthood centers where I live which are in largely middle class, white areas or communities.
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