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Brees to Jimmy TD overturned

Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:04 am
Posted by Titleist72
Member since Oct 2011
377 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:04 am
Im not sure if this has been discussed but that TD being called back was complete bullshite. After that I started to feel like the refs had an agenda.

Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought that if you have one foot and and one heel in bounds it counts as two feet in for complete catch purposes. Also his damn knee was down before that.

I know this may sound selfish but my fantasy team lost by 9 points in the first round of the playoffs and I had Drew & Jimmy on my team.

Good thing we won besides all the other bullshite calls that went against us.

WHO DAT
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18341 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:10 am to
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Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought that if you have one foot and and one heel in bound


No, you need both feet completely in. It was a good call. Very very close, but a good call.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61205 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:13 am to
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No, you need both feet completely in
I've seen guys make tip-toe catches omn the sideline where only their toes touched the ground before they went out. Those plays were considered in bounds.
Posted by Titleist72
Member since Oct 2011
377 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:19 am to
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No, you need both feet completely in. It was a good call. Very very close, but a good call.



Brian Hartline for the Dolphins caught an awesome pass this season near the sidelines. He caught the ball high and dragged both of this feet while falling out of bounds.

Both his set of toes were the only thing to touch the ground
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:26 am to
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No, you need both feet completely in.


Nope.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18341 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:27 am to
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I've seen guys make tip-toe catches omn the sideline where only their toes touched the ground before they went out. Those plays were considered in bounds.


I could be wrong here but I believe toes are considered in while a heel isn't.

The meaning behind this is that if your toes are in, then of course it means your heels would be as well if you had the ability to be flat footed. If your heel is in, you can lay your feet flat but your toes could be out of bounds. The opposite is not true, which was the case in the game today.

Certainly a player can have his back towards the sideline and catch the ball on the heels, but it's pretty much impossible to drag your heels without your toes being in bounds.

Toes and heels are two completely different situations.

Sorry if that makes no sense, it's late.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164042 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:28 am to
The toe tap is a separate ruling.

If the whole foot comes down, it has to come down in bounds.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18341 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 1:31 am to
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The toe tap is a separate ruling.

If the whole foot comes down, it has to come down in bounds.


Yeah, that's what I was getting at. You said it much simpler than I did.
Posted by computerguy
Orlando
Member since Oct 2007
1236 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:33 am to
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Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought that if you have one foot and and one heel in bound



No, you need both feet completely in. It was a good call. Very very close, but a good call.

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Agree it was a heck of a close call but he was out.
Posted by LsuSaintsMan
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Nov 2003
1532 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 5:09 am to
Well correct me if I'm wrong but didn't his knee touch before his toe?
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22128 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 6:05 am to
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The meaning behind this is that if your toes are in, then of course it means your heels would be as well if you had the ability to be flat footed


not necessarily. what if his back is towards the back of the endzone and he's facing the qb when the ball is thrown to him. only his toes touch but his heels could come down out of bounds.

ftr, it looked in to me. i didn't see this "single blade of grass" joe buck was talking about.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64108 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 6:20 am to
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ftr, it looked in to me. i didn't see this "single blade of grass" joe buck was talking about.


time to invest in a HD TV

it was out..you could see the white come up if you didn't have the B and G glasses on
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 7:40 am to
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Well correct me if I'm wrong but didn't his knee touch before his toe?


No it did not.

He was out of bounds. Plain and simple. Can't believe how many saints fans cant get that through their heads.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 8:15 am to
Can someone link the video? I had to listen on radio.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3480 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 8:34 am to
Looked like his knee was down and he kept his toes up with his heel inbounds, very close but I thought it was a TD.
Posted by Poohter
SW, Mo.
Member since Sep 2009
1713 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 8:53 am to
The call may have been correct, in the end, but there is no way in hell the Ref saw that kind of detail, in real time, to call it incomplete in the first place. No way.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:05 am to
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The call may have been correct, in the end, but there is no way in hell the Ref saw that kind of detail, in real time, to call it incomplete in the first place. No way.


So your beef is that the ref luckily got the call right?

Um ok.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:08 am to
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Looked like his knee was down and he kept his toes up with his heel inbounds, very close but I thought it was a TD.
I thougth it was a TD, too. That's how I saw it, but I'm glad I'm not a referee.

There was so much yellow on the field yesterday, the Jimmy call was hardly what I was pissed at.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:22 am to
He was not out of bounds, but I'm glad the game did not come down to that call. If they had called it a touchdown, that play would have stood. But since they didn't, the ruling on the field is what stood. The Jake Locker TD was far more egregious.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 9:22 am
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:27 am to
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He was not out of bounds,


He 1000% was out of bounds. It's not even up for debate.
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