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re: Brees to Jimmy TD overturned

Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:27 am to
Ruling was correct but damn that white blade of grass, damn that blade.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:28 am to
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The Jake Locker TD was far more egregious.
What? It was pretty clear that was a TD.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:32 am to
Both calls were right. It just that the officials had thrown 300 flags prior to those two plays so people had already made up their mind that whatever the official called it was going to be wrong.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:34 am to
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Both calls were right. It just that the officials had thrown 300 flags prior to those two plays so people had already made up their mind that whatever the official called it was going to be wrong.
:kige:
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:43 am to
I know if you drag your toes, it is good. And if your toe touches in, but your heel falls out, you are out. I guess it is the same as when your heel touches and your toe comes down out.

Posted by Deathrider
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:48 am to
I believe both calls were wrong and nothing will convince me otherwise. I wouldn't even accept a letter from the league office. Those refs were trying hard to screw the Saints and it was obvious.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 9:50 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:49 am to
Then you are hopeless i suppose.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:50 am to
It's really simple. When you drag your toes and then pick your feet up or just fall over, the only thing that touched the ground on that particular step was the toe. If you tap your heel inbounds with your toes up and then pick up your foot without your toes touching the ground, you've completed a step and are inbounds. There is nothing that says that a complete step has to include a whole foot, but if the complete step DOES include a whole foot, then that whole foot has to land inbounds, regardless of which part of the foot hits first.

Graham's heel hit inbounds, followed by his toes hitting out of bounds all as part of a single step, so he was out. Had Graham's heel hit and then he picked up his foot before the toes hit out and just fell to the ground, it would've been inbounds and a TD.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 9:53 am
Posted by Deathrider
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:51 am to
It's one of those plays that if it had been called a TD, it would have been upheld. But because it wasn't, it was not upheld. It's as simple as that.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:52 am to
It's incredibly simple. It makes me question the football iq of some on here.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:52 am to
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It's one of those plays that if it had been called a TD, it would have been upheld. But because it wasn't, it was not upheld. It's as simple as that.


More than likely because it was so close. Regardless, the right call was made.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:54 am to
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More than likely because it was so close.


There was that one footage clearly showing the white blade of grass having cleat contact. Other then that, I would probably agree that the closeness would have stuck way it was called but hard to deny the white blade when it jumps off ground.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:55 am to
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There was that one footage clearly showing the white blade of grass having cleat contact.


Yeah but that was the super duper blowup that fox showed. I have no idea if carey had access to that blowup footage or not.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 9:56 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:56 am to
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Yeah but that was the super duper blowup that fox showed. I have no idea if carey had access to that blowup footage or not.




who knows, i'd surely hope so that these refs get access to the best shots to make an accurate call. Seems logical enough.
Posted by Deathrider
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:59 am to
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It's incredibly simple. It makes me question the football iq of some on here.


That footage could have been doctored, you know. I kid, but I didn't see that white blade of grass at all.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 10:00 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:01 am to
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but I didn't see that white blade of grass at all.


I have no idea how. It was there plain as day. cleats flicks white grass up into the air.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:02 am to
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I have no idea how. It was there plain as day. cleats flicks white grass up into the air.


His tears and tandrom must of clouded his vision.
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:02 am to
the issue was magnified by the refs intrusion into the game. way too much ticky tack both ways instead of letting them play. got to the point where after each good play people were asking "but no flag??"

not so much of a bad reffing game as it was a too much reffing game
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:05 am to
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No, you need both feet completely in. It was a good call. Very very close, but a good call.


horsecrap

why do you have to have both feet in when every week i see tip toe catches all the time?

there's no heel in those catches.. so therefore u don't have to have the entire foot. right?



Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:06 am to
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there's no heel in those catches.. so therefore u don't have to have the entire foot. right?


right, but if the whole foot does come down, has to come down in bounds. Understand. If jimmy kept his toes in the air, would have been a TD.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 10:07 am
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