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Looking for Good Youth Shotgun

Posted on 12/2/11 at 10:16 am
Posted by Sharkzila
Bourg, LA
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 10:16 am
I'm looking for a good youth shotgun for my 5 year old. He is shooting a regular sized .410 pump thats too big for him. I want to get something that he can grow into. I'm looking for a 20 gauge. I'm leaning toward Weatherby SA-08.

TIA
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 10:20 am to
Get a Remington 870 youth model 20. Dependable, cheap (because he'll grow out of it), and he needs to learn to shoot a pump first IMO
This post was edited on 12/2/11 at 10:21 am
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 10:23 am to
Mossberg 510 Mini in .410 or 20ga



Just my opinion... but a lighter gun might make 20ga a little stout for a 5 year old. But if he isn't scared of it.. he should be able to use this for quite some time with the expanding stock, and after its outgrown.. it will make a nice home defense weapon.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Mossberg 510 Mini in .410 or 20ga


thats what i was going to recommend


i have a 20 gauge rossi for my 7 year old though and it kicks like a mule


academy has a mossberg bantam 20 gauge semi auto for 330 or so


might be worth a look
Posted by Sharkzila
Bourg, LA
Member since Oct 2006
56 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 10:50 am to
I was looking at an H&R 20gag Crack the other day, but figured that he will be able shoot either a pump or an auto in the next couple of years. I like the Mossberg as well that is a cool concept to grow with the child.

I really want to move him up to a 20 gag from the .410. The shells are about 15 a box and the spread is maybe 12" at 35 yds.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 10:59 am to
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H&R
Their Pardner Pump Compact is supposed to be a good youth gun.

Posted by Ioncehitta Longball
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:00 am to
How big of a kid is he? When my younger brother started hunting he was a short little kid. His arms weren't long enough to even pump a youth model 870. We went in the direction of a 1187 super light with synthetic stock and cut the stock as much as possible. It was around 700.
Posted by Sharkzila
Bourg, LA
Member since Oct 2006
56 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:06 am to
He will not be able to pump it now, I just don't want to buy a Crack barrel now and then in 2 years when he can pump have to buy another gun. Right now when he hunts with me I load 1 shell into his .410 and put it on the opposite side of the blind from him. I let him shoot and if he needs another shell we just load another one.

I'm would really like to get him a nice auto, but I may wait until he can shoot a full size and get him one then.

Thanks this is good info...I need to decide soon
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:07 am to
quote:

my 5 year old
I only just noticed this. I'm not even ready for mine to get a Red Rider
Posted by Ioncehitta Longball
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:13 am to
You could always buy a full size stock when the time comes. That was are original plan for him, but when he hit a growth spurt he shot up! He went from the smallest 20 gauge possible to a cutoff 391 tekneys gold! The lil gun is still being shot by some of the smaller 4-hers in our parishes' 4-H shooting program. It's had thousands of rounds fired through it and it's still going strong.
Posted by Teyeger
Smoke Grove
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:45 pm to
The 870 youth gun is a good one but the Mossberg has a shorter distance to reach for the forearm to be able to pump it.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

I really want to move him up to a 20 gag from the .410. The shells are about 15 a box and the spread is maybe 12" at 35 yds.


If the kid can handle the recoil of a 20ga, and it sounds like you're concerned with hunting ducks mostly, then moving up is a good idea. If it was more squirrel and rabbit... I'd say stick with the .410.

I tried a 20ga crackbarrel with my daughter, and the thing is just too light. Recoil is too stout with factory loads. I started loading some powder puff shells for her, and that took care of that.

My son has the single shot now, and he's shooting powder puff loads like she was, and she's graduated to that Mossberg in 20ga, with regular loads.
This post was edited on 12/2/11 at 1:14 pm
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1819 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:15 pm to
That 510 looks like a good idea if he can handle it. Just curious, what age did you start him shooting? My little guy turns three in a couple of months and didn't know if he would be ready by next fall or if its going to be another year.
Posted by Ioncehitta Longball
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:25 pm to
I was 3 when I got my first daisy and 4 when I got my first shotgun(410). But at four your basically just shooting a couple rounds at a coke can every couple days to build stamina and starting on gun safety.

My grandfather who we lost 3 years ago got me my first three guns for Christmas's. I can't help but think about him on these topics of getting kids started.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:40 pm to
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My little guy turns three in a couple of months and didn't know if he would be ready by next fall or if its going to be another year.


That's too young, IMO. Obviously it depends on the kid. Would you trust a 3 year old with a sharp knife?

I started taking my kids hunting when they were 5. I started letting them bring a BB gun when they were 6, and sometime between 6 and 7, I had them shooting .22's and .410s at the range. I didn't let them carry a real gun on a hunt until 8 or 9, depending on the kid.

If you hunt more often, then those ages can start earlier for sure. Its all about exposure, maturity and your skill and patience as a teacher. My son gets bored, and I have to stay on his arse not to get careless with the gun. My daughter at the same age was really into it, so she's quiet, and attentive and keeps her head into it.
This post was edited on 12/2/11 at 1:41 pm
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10201 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:42 pm to
I was looking into the Stoeger over/under Youth models in both .410 and 20 gauge. Leaning towards the .410.

Haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Posted by Ioncehitta Longball
LAFFY
Member since Aug 2011
881 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:48 pm to
quote:


I was looking into the Stoeger over/under Youth models in both .410 and 20 gauge. Leaning towards the .410.

Haven't pulled the trigger yet.




Be warned they got a little kick to them and after a few thousand rounds I've seen 8 or so split wood were the forearm meets metal. If your not planning on them shooting alot then it should be ok.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

I was looking into the Stoeger over/under Youth models in both .410 and 20 gauge. Leaning towards the .410.


I've heard some really good things about Stoeger.
I've seen these O/U youth guns as well. My daughter loves my Remington O/U, but its a bit too long for her. If you get one of these, please let me know how it turns out for you. I might want to get one for her.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Be warned they got a little kick to them and after a few thousand rounds I've seen 8 or so split wood were the forearm meets metal


I can't imagine this to be the case with the .410? Have you seen this with maybe a 12ga? Just curious.
Posted by Ioncehitta Longball
LAFFY
Member since Aug 2011
881 posts
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:54 pm to
No I have never seen the 410 model. All of the problems I seen came in the 20/12 ga models and Like I said if they are just going to use it to hunt it will probably last but if they get to shooting sporting clays or skeet it may not hold up.
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