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Leadership/On and off the field
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:04 pm
I have been a steady supporter of JJ fir 4 years because of his toughness and gutsy play, but if this scenario proves out that he was central in the altercation, he will have relinquished his leadership role of the team. he will have shone that he's not worthy of leading LSU in any capacity. His physicality is unquestioned, but his decision-making ability has always been wanting and may have been proven once again. The oracle has spoken!
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:07 pm to Phil2012
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he will have shone
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:09 pm to LSUGrad9295
Fosure
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:09 pm to LSUGrad9295
I do not want a thug of any kind representing LSU in any capacity. If Jefferson kicked this guy while on the ground, I hope Miles kicks him off the team. Period!
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:10 pm to Phil2012
'At are whut? 
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:10 pm to LagdonCG
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I do not want a thug of any kind representing LSU in any capacity. If Jefferson kicked this guy while on the ground, I hope Miles kicks him off the team. Period!
this. a la RP
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:11 pm to Phil2012
LSU has never needed JJ to be a leader.
The problem here is that this recent story calls into question whether or not JJ is even a decent follower.
The problem here is that this recent story calls into question whether or not JJ is even a decent follower.
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:11 pm to Phil2012
Signed,
Ryan Perrilloux
Ryan Perrilloux
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:12 pm to Doc Fenton
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The problem here is that this recent story calls into question whether or not JJ is even a decent follower.
Bingo!
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:19 pm to I-59 Tiger
Well T-Bob seems like he has shown himself to incapable of staying out of trouble. Between past instances and him being called out by Miles in this, I have to question WTF is going on inside his head. 
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:22 pm to Phil2012
I've said it before.... there is ZERO leadership on this team. Another year of "It's all about me".
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:39 pm to tigerpawl
Most of the players on any team will never be true leaders. In fact, most people prefer to follow...it doesn't require any real character. But the QB on a football team necessarily needs to be able to make good decisions that affect the entire team as well as the University as a whole.
JJ appears often to be angry and frustrated with himself...and as with so many people of today, they find it so much easier to blame anybody but themselves for their short-comings. As the black Democratic mayor of Philadelphia said last week, it's time for many black men to stand up and accept responsibility for their lives and stop blaming the white man for the mess that is their lives. Sorry if the truth hurts. I have long since stop making excuses for anyone...as the U.S. Marines are famous for saying, "Excuses are like a-holes, everybody has got one!"
JJ appears often to be angry and frustrated with himself...and as with so many people of today, they find it so much easier to blame anybody but themselves for their short-comings. As the black Democratic mayor of Philadelphia said last week, it's time for many black men to stand up and accept responsibility for their lives and stop blaming the white man for the mess that is their lives. Sorry if the truth hurts. I have long since stop making excuses for anyone...as the U.S. Marines are famous for saying, "Excuses are like a-holes, everybody has got one!"
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:42 pm to Phil2012
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JJ appears often to be angry and frustrated with himself...
... or he could just be too coddled and pampered, and not frustrated with himself enough ... it's hard to say...
One thing is clear, the absurd PR campaign Miles put on for JJ this year could not possibly have been a good thing for his character. Any way you look at it, JJ was being coddled or used.
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:45 pm to Doc Fenton
I guess you could definitely say his physicality can't be questioned.
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:49 pm to Phil2012
If you were honestly relying on JJ to be a leader this year for the team, then you pretty much should write of the season. 
JJ has a lot of potential to be a solid QB, and brings a lot to the table that the other 2 QBs don't, but leadership is not one of those things. It's just not his thing. He has his moments, but I've never seen him actually show great leadership in his 3 years at LSU, so no reason to expect it now.
JJ has a lot of potential to be a solid QB, and brings a lot to the table that the other 2 QBs don't, but leadership is not one of those things. It's just not his thing. He has his moments, but I've never seen him actually show great leadership in his 3 years at LSU, so no reason to expect it now.
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:56 pm to Phil2012
So what do we do with Mettenberger that has a conviction on his record already?
It seems he gets a lot of love on here.
It seems he gets a lot of love on here.
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:59 pm to SuperPredator
You are correct. He is not a hologram.
Posted on 8/20/11 at 2:19 pm to LSUGrad9295
quote:
quote:
he will have shone
Indian word for shown
Posted on 8/20/11 at 2:27 pm to Phil2012
You might want to wait before the stone throwing starts. If any past problems have been an indicator, some of those who's leadership have been questioned were in fact standing up or in for others in the past, and possibly in this incident.
Sometimes it's still leadership/teamsmanship, even if you don't agree with it.
I think a lot of people forget or have forgotten what it's like to be a young person, with your friends.
Sometimes it's still leadership/teamsmanship, even if you don't agree with it.
I think a lot of people forget or have forgotten what it's like to be a young person, with your friends.
Posted on 8/20/11 at 2:32 pm to Aletheia
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So what do we do with Mettenberger that has a conviction on his record already?
It seems he gets a lot of love on here.
One BIG difference.
Z. Mettenberger was a freshman when he had a brain-fart moment, J. Jefferson OTOH is a SENIOR.
Players look up to SR for leadership, not a FR, right???
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