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re: Homebrewing: Supplies/ Starter Kits

Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:08 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:08 am to
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OH and BTW 'blow off tube' google it and have one ready just incase.


Is this mainly for lagers?
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21449 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:15 am to
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Homebrewing: Supplies/ Starter Kits

s this mainly for lagers?


No
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:21 am to
No all beer. If you have a very active fermentation you wouldnt believe the pressure it can produce. I think there are some youtube videos of the explosions.

Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:22 am to
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I brewed an Imperial IPA for my first try. It was fine. I doubt it's any harder than any other beer so don't worry about that. Brew what you like.


Yea your first go around was what I was referring to lol we dont want him to go to the same stress levels..
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:31 am to
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No all beer. If you have a very active fermentation you wouldnt believe the pressure it can produce. I think there are some youtube videos of the explosions.




When i was reading. I believe one of the steps, was to hook up your hose to your carboy for 2-3 days. then after that you place the stopper to allow it to ferment. Is this correct? I'm going off of memory of what i read, so i may be off, please correct if so.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:37 am to
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When i was reading. I believe one of the steps, was to hook up your hose to your carboy for 2-3 days. then after that you place the stopper to allow it to ferment. Is this correct? I'm going off of memory of what i read, so i may be off, please correct if so.



Essientially. The idea is to allow the krausen to exit the fermentor through a contained tube. So still airtight just into another container. Then when fermentation has calmed down you can remove the blow off tube and put in the airlock.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14693 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:40 am to
Oh yeahh. Definitely figure out a blow-off tube setup. I had a pleasant smelling mess at about day 3.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:46 am to
Well, i made a list of things to get from brewstock, and the total comes out to about $180 for the things i want. Could be less.
Posted by Grilled Bald Eagle
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1069 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:48 am to
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Well, i made a list of things to get from brewstock, and the total comes out to about $180 for the things i want. Could be less.


Over time I've learned that one of the absolute truths of homebrewing is you will always find something else to spend money on. If you enjoy the hobby the money is worth it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 11:00 am to
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If you enjoy the hobby the money is worth i


Yeah. I'm trying to get quality products, and also things that will make brewing life easier. Such as bottle washers, auto-siphoning tubes, tube clamps, bottling buckets.

Speaking of bottling buckets.

They talk about bottling buckets, as in buckets you just place your bottle in so to prevent mess. However, i've also seen some with spigots at the end. Do these work well with bottling? Do you have to transfer your brew a 3rd time to this bottling bucket in order to bottle, instead of transferring twice, then to a bottle?

Also, i've read, that when you are transferring your brew, you don't want it to splash anywhere. Will the spigot give you less control over splashing into your bottles than say a tube?
Posted by Grilled Bald Eagle
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1069 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 11:13 am to
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They talk about bottling buckets, as in buckets you just place your bottle in so to prevent mess. However, i've also seen some with spigots at the end. Do these work well with bottling? Do you have to transfer your brew a 3rd time to this bottling bucket in order to bottle, instead of transferring twice, then to a bottle?

Also, i've read, that when you are transferring your brew, you don't want it to splash anywhere. Will the spigot give you less control over splashing into your bottles than say a tube?



Its been forever since I've used buckets, but when I did I had two - a fermenting bucket and a bottling bucket. The fermenting bucket had a lid with a grommet to allow an airlock. The bottling bucket was like you said - a bucket with a hole at the bottom with a spigot fit into it.

Depending on your setup you'll ferment in container 1, and then either rack to a carboy for secondary fermentation or to the bottling bucket for bottling. You'll hook up a length of tube to the spigot and a bottle-filler to the end of the tube. The spigot method allows you to use gravity to fill your bottles instead of needing to siphon. Using the bottle filler will let you fill from the bottom of the bottle with minimal agitation.

Your other option is to do like my buddy and just skip bottling altogether and move to kegs. I'm not a big fan of this - the pain in the arse that is bottling makes you appreciate the finished product that much more. Kegging can always come later.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 11:34 am to
I use a glass carboy for a primary fementer and then a fermenation bucket with a spigot attached for secondary / bottling. It works pretty well and lifting the spigot a half-inch or so off the bottom of the secondary bucket helps eliminate the trub getting into the bottles.

WAY easier than bottling with a siphon hose.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21449 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 11:41 am to
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Well, i made a list of things to get from brewstock, and the total comes out to about $180 for the things i want. Could be less.


Does that include ingredients for your first batch?

And have you collected bottles yet? You'll need about 50 12oz bottles.....Start drinking....And throw out the twist off bottles.
Posted by thebhamdawgfan
The Magic City
Member since Mar 2011
660 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 11:46 am to
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I use a glass carboy for a primary fementer and then a fermenation bucket with a spigot attached for secondary / bottling.


Just curious as to why. I would think the opposite would be better. Does it even matter?
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 11:56 am to
If I secondary I do it in a 5 gallon carboy to reduce the head space. Since there is little to no fermentation I worry about oxidation.
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
Member since Mar 2006
15080 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:01 pm to
We need a homebrewing board!!!!!!

I'm about to start heating water for a mash...

I use the plastic "Better Bottle" carboys. I have a glass one but it is heavy when filled w/ 5 gallons of fluid. I've been using the plastic ones for a year now and can tell no difference. And I use the bottling bucket w/ the spigot at the bottom.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:17 pm to
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Just curious as to why. I would think the opposite would be better. Does it even matter?


I prefer the glass carboy for primary because it's glass and I can see all the fermentation action going on.

The bucket works well as a secondary/bottler because of the spigot set slightly above the bottom.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:27 pm to
I primary in a bucket and secondary in a carboy (for the reason mentioned about about headspace). When I'm ready to bottle, I'll transfer the contents in the carboy to a third bottling bucket, which has the spigot the bottom

My initail setup was $55 for two bucket (a frementer and a bottling) and all hoses, capper, etc, etc. I'm still using basicallytgis but have added a glass carboy as a secondary fermenter.
This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:29 pm to
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and the total comes out to about $180 for the things i want.


Im probably pushing 1100 or 1200 in equipement and "want" another 600 or so in equipment.

Yet I did make sure I had good value on that starter kit..
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:43 pm to
Here is the secret..

Buy a 100 kit telling the wife you are starting back up an old hobby

Make the house STINK to high heaven with brewery smell

Convince the wife that your new hobby could be taken outdoors and you can make your own stuff to save a lot of money.

Spend 60 on copper and make your own chiller
Spend another 75 build a cooler mash/tun but you "saved" money because you built it yourself..

You dont want to really use that crawfish pot to boil right? Nahhh Now you spend 120 on a 40qt ss kettle.. and weldless ball valve. Ahh But you "saved" money because those things sell together drilled for over 200 bucks.

Of course you needed a new propane tank cause you want it dedicated and you want a better burner too.. But that was only 80 bucks.. pennies...

Buy your 50 bottles but then make a mess bottling..

Wives dont like messes.. But there is a solution..

Kegerator.... But you see you run out and buy a large mini fridge and build it yourself for 350. You "saved" 300 bucks.. Those things are expensive.

Now you have homebrew on tap year round..


You have spent $800 or so dollars but you "saved" hundreds.. Maybe a $1000..

So have a birthday and now your hobby that everyone knows about provides ample gift ideas.. Wife may even give you a SS Conical fermemter who would have known..

And there you have it the best way to "Save" your way to 1200 in brewing equipment. (You have to put it in terms they understand)

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