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Wildlife and Fisheries and Ducks Unlimited have destroyed Rollover Bayou
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:34 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:34 am
I have been shrimping and crabbing at Rollover Bayou in Rockefeller Refuge for many years. I went out there yesterday and Wildlife and Fisheries, in a project funded by Ducks Unlimited, is tearing out the weir that connects the huge shrimp marsh and replacing it with a more restrictive weir. They have a giant work barge up in the Bayou and have built a pile dam to block the flow of water from the Dyson Ditch side. They've also started dredging the waterway from the Gulf to the weir. The entire area is now a stinking pile of spoil and stagnant water not fit for anything but hardheads and gar.
The plan is to choke the saltwater marsh to make more freshwater space for ducks. Again, the duck guys are killing the estuary, completely destroying the fishing and marsh shrimping. Before long the Refuge will be essentially dead as a fishing location.
The plan is to choke the saltwater marsh to make more freshwater space for ducks. Again, the duck guys are killing the estuary, completely destroying the fishing and marsh shrimping. Before long the Refuge will be essentially dead as a fishing location.
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:38 am to TBoy
So everyone in LA has been fighting for coastal restoration via marsh building, and they are destroying the best type of marsh to make room for ducks? Doesn't seem logical at all
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:07 am to Hammertime
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So everyone in LA has been fighting for coastal restoration via marsh building
Ask yourself this question; Coastal restoration for whom?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:40 am to Barf
Dem oysters 
Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:23 pm to TBoy
Build, baby, build. I'm for it.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:30 pm to Hammertime
Sometimes salt water is the enemy of the land. But in other cases the brackish marsh is in balance with the rain and tide. When I first started fishing out there, the Refuge was damn near paradise, a fully functional fish hatchery. Fisherman aren't as well organized and capitalized as duck hunters. It's crazy to try to to expand the freshwater duck landing area south of the highway. Next storm will push the salt right back in, and then you will have no saltwater marsh grass to hold it together. Then we will lose land.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 5:19 am to TBoy
It wasn't created to be a shrimp and crabbing refuge, set aside for the locals to dump their bycatch, chicken neck containers and nylon twine all over the place. It was created to protect wintering habitat for migrating birds. Too bad there aren't any oysters being impacted, those guys are great at halting progress.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 6:02 am to TBoy
She's still asleep
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:35 am to TBoy
FYI - the rock pile will be removed or re-arranged to allow the water flow, probably re-arranged and used as shoreline protection. It is temporary to allow ease of construction. Constructing a wier in rapidly flowing water is dangerous.
The dredged area is an access canal for the work barge doing the work. I am certain the permit requires backfilling when the barge gets removed.
And I will guess that the old wier was falling apart and it's a replacement / upgrade.
Another guess - with the new wier they will be able to control it better and actually operate it instead of it being what it is.
W&F actually operates their stuff as intended which is nice.
The dredged area is an access canal for the work barge doing the work. I am certain the permit requires backfilling when the barge gets removed.
And I will guess that the old wier was falling apart and it's a replacement / upgrade.
Another guess - with the new wier they will be able to control it better and actually operate it instead of it being what it is.
W&F actually operates their stuff as intended which is nice.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:53 am to Capt ST
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It wasn't created to be a shrimp and crabbing refuge, set aside for the locals to dump their bycatch, chicken neck containers and nylon twine all over the place
this guy gets it.
They have some trashy (literally and figuratively) arse people who use that weir
Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:14 am to gaetti15
Yes, let's take as many cig packages, butts, beer cans, string, white plastic bags and chicken neck packages and leave them everywhere on the bank.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:07 am to GonePecan
That area is pretty disgusting with rotten bycatch and litter. The Dept. should send in guys to write littering tickets to every violator. Another reason why we can not have nice things.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:37 am to dwr353
I don't think this is going as the OP planned...
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:48 am to TBoy
I could be wrong here, but didn't LDWF and DU put the original weir in place there back in 2003/4? They might be the reason Rock is what it is for holding birds
DU doesn't do anything for us down here...
Dredging is the only way to fix coastal erosion...
DU doesn't do anything for us down here...
Dredging is the only way to fix coastal erosion...
Posted on 9/1/15 at 11:12 am to Citica8
There in lies the disparity. Duck hunters are clean and well capitalized and the shrimpers and fishermen are scavenging rats who are dirty and want something for nothing.
I agree that there are a lot of trash throwing people down there. Every time I return to the ramp I bring a bag of trash. Last weekend I also brought in a single white boot, an old, crushed crab trap, a ball of abandoned twine and some miscellaneous plastic bottles and cans.
But the serious issue is that I wasn't able to bring back any catch with all the spoil and destruction. Every weir along the waterway was either closed or nearly closed. Water on both sides of the Bayou was still and fetid.
I agree that there are a lot of trash throwing people down there. Every time I return to the ramp I bring a bag of trash. Last weekend I also brought in a single white boot, an old, crushed crab trap, a ball of abandoned twine and some miscellaneous plastic bottles and cans.
But the serious issue is that I wasn't able to bring back any catch with all the spoil and destruction. Every weir along the waterway was either closed or nearly closed. Water on both sides of the Bayou was still and fetid.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:42 pm to TBoy
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There in lies the disparity. Duck hunters are clean and well capitalized and the shrimpers and fishermen are scavenging rats who are dirty and want something for nothing.
I thought this was supposed to be a shared resource, sorry to inconvenience you. Marsh island wiers being reworked also? West cove? You're no better than the fishermen bitching because they have grown accustomed to catch speckled trout where they used to catch sac a lait. And heaven forbid they have to run more than 5 mins from Nola to do it in the middle of the summer. Trashy people littering aside, we need to capitalize on every cent DU, CCA or whomever decides to help monetarily with coastal projects.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:48 pm to Capt ST
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capitalize on every cent DU, CCA or whomever decides to help monetarily with coastal projects
It's really hard to believe that so many people bash the organizations that are actually raising money to give back to the resources that we enjoy and pride ourselves on as the Sportsman's Paradise. They also lobby the LDWF and FED for additional dollars to help.
I often ask fellow sportsmen what organization they are members of. When they reply with "nothing," I ask how else are they giving back to the resource. To date, I haven't gotten a response that's worth mentioning. It's just the usual, complain and blame, game...
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:03 pm to xenon16
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It's really hard to believe that so many people bash the organizations that are actually raising money to give back to the resources that we enjoy and pride ourselves on as the Sportsman's Paradise.
THIS THIS THIS THIS
Posted on 9/1/15 at 2:21 pm to Redfish2010
Be careful. Just because someone is spending money near the coast does not mean that they are "protecting what we have." What I see is that there is a strong effort in Southwest Louisiana to eliminate or shrink the coastal marsh to make more land available for cattle and duck ponds. That is not "preserving" what we have, it is changing the coastal environment to suit a commercial desire. That is the same thinking which led to the construction of oil and gas channels. Once they kill off the saltwater marsh there will be nothing to hold the soil together after the next storm. Instead, they should be focused on the health of the natural salt marsh. That is the natural barrier and filter.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 2:36 pm to TBoy
Correct. What's best for the environment might not be best for human activity.
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