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Why conceal carry??
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:03 pm
Lots of threads on here about conceal carry and what guns are best for conceal.
I am curious just why if you want to carry a gun do you want to conceal it??
Is there any real advantage to hiding it?
I am curious just why if you want to carry a gun do you want to conceal it??
Is there any real advantage to hiding it?
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:05 pm to I B Freeman
You sound too stupid to own a gun.
There are many advantages to carrying concealed. The main one being, it's concealed. The perp that you would use it against wouldn't know that you had it ahead of time.
There are many advantages to carrying concealed. The main one being, it's concealed. The perp that you would use it against wouldn't know that you had it ahead of time.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:05 pm to I B Freeman
Element of surprise
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:10 pm to Real Pirate
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You sound too stupid to own a gun.
There are many advantages to carrying concealed. The main one being, it's concealed. The perp that you would use it against wouldn't know that you had it ahead of time.
I own about 20.
Carried a gun after Katrina when I made our daily deposit. Carried on my hip. No reason to leave in doubt in anyone's mind if they would have trouble or not should they decide to grab that deposit.
Cops carry theirs on their hip. I guess they are stupid too in your eyes.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:16 pm to I B Freeman
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Cops carry theirs on their hip. I guess they are stupid too in your eyes.
Yes, they generally are of a lesser intelligence.
The badge and uniform generally announce the presence of a gun, thus, no reason for them to conceal.
Most of the federal agencies that wear suits instead of uniforms do carry concealed, btw.
As I stated before, if you can't decipher the obvious advantages of carrying concealed, perhaps you shouldn't own guns.
Eta: Your open carrying in a hostile environment doesn't equate to carrying concealed the way most people with a CCL do.
Open carrying in everyday life presents you as a target, puts the general public on edge, and takes away the element of surprise that you could posses as a CCL holder.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:16 pm to I B Freeman
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I own about 20
Noob.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:17 pm to I B Freeman
Not every state allows open carry?
No reason to advertise you're carrying?
Not wanting to have every liberal whack job call the police on you even if you can legally carry where you reside?
Many reasons.
No reason to advertise you're carrying?
Not wanting to have every liberal whack job call the police on you even if you can legally carry where you reside?
Many reasons.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:30 pm to Manzielathon
Well I just do not recall reading of anyone open carrying in Louisiana being mugged or robbed or outside of law enforcement even having to use their gun in defense.
A few times a year we read about a concealed carry guy being involved in a shooting.
I just wonder if confrontations are better avoided if the perps have a choice between an open carry victim and an "unknown" carry victim?
A few times a year we read about a concealed carry guy being involved in a shooting.
I just wonder if confrontations are better avoided if the perps have a choice between an open carry victim and an "unknown" carry victim?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:56 pm to I B Freeman
Open carry, you're more likely to be targeted first, and possibly have your gun taken. What makes you stand out if they don't know you have a gat?
Element of surprise
Element of surprise
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:59 pm to Hammertime
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Open carry, you're more likely to be targeted first
I think that is an incorrect assumption.
Can you point to single mugging of person open carrying? even a gun fight?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:03 pm to I B Freeman
Do you carry so that it is impossible for someone to walk up behind you and take your gun? Retention, crossdraw, etc.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:08 pm to weagle99
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Do you carry so that it is impossible for someone to walk up behind you and take your gun? Retention, crossdraw, etc.
No but I carry it where I can reach it quicker than anywhere I might conceal it.
We can all come up with reasons and it seems sort of cool I guess to have a gun on you and nobody knows but there just are no examples of open carry people getting mugged that I can find.
Why would a thief knowingly attack someone with a gun?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:10 pm to Real Pirate
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This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:17 pm to I B Freeman
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No but I carry it where I can reach it quicker than anywhere I might conceal it.
Then you're concealed carrying incorrectly. Get a proper holster and practice.
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Why would a thief knowingly attack someone with a gun?
If a gunman comes in killing, you're the first to go. Once you, as a threat, are neutralized only another person with a gun will stop him.
I'm a firm believer,like most people, that open carrying does more harm than good when compared to concealed carrying.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:21 pm to I B Freeman
Another thought: A potential thief now knows that you own at least one gun, and will probablh correctly guess you own more.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:22 pm to I B Freeman
Okay, so just a hypothetical here, but say me and a buddy decide to go on a spree. We get there, and the FIRST thing we'd do would be to neutralize all of the immediate threats. You'd be dumb not to. If I think one person is gonna throw a set of keys at me, and the other is gonna start shooting, who do you think I'm going after first? If the perp overlooks the guy with the keys, that gives him a chance to throw some lead before they realize what's going on.
Plus, even before anything started, I could just sneak up on you and take your gun easier than it would be to steal your wallet
Eta: Proper concealed carry is about muscle memory. Open carry is one step. Concealed is two. Just have to practice enough to minimize that time to go through the steps
Plus, even before anything started, I could just sneak up on you and take your gun easier than it would be to steal your wallet
Eta: Proper concealed carry is about muscle memory. Open carry is one step. Concealed is two. Just have to practice enough to minimize that time to go through the steps
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 3:58 pm to I B Freeman
This is such a tiring argument about open carry vs cc. "But you'll be the first target" - bullshite, your giving too much credit to some animal out looking for trouble. "You'll scare people" - if you have a gun, you have a gun. A t-shirt over a gun doesn't make it go away. I do both. Open or concealed it doesn't matter. It's still there. It's much easier to carry some weapons in a fashion other than trying to make sure nobody can see it. I wish everybody would just carry however they are comfortable with. More good people with a weapon available just makes it less likely that one of these idiots takes out multiple victims. Just carry, open or concealed - and lets quit arguing about which is "better". OP, this is not directed at you. Just my $.02.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 4:29 pm to RoIITide
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"But you'll be the first target" - bullshite, your giving too much credit to some animal out looking for trouble.
Not sure if you're serious. That's exactly what every person with a gun looking to harm others is going to do. They will disarm or neutralize all visible threats.
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"You'll scare people" - if you have a gun, you have a gun. A t-shirt over a gun doesn't make it go away.
Actually, that's exactly what the shirt over the gun does, as far as visibility is concerned.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 4:45 pm to I B Freeman
quote:Are you saying you've received the sane gun retention training that cops get ??
Cops carry theirs on their hip. I guess they are stupid too in your eyes.
You've been given some solid advice, and very valid explanations. You seem to enjoy arguing.
It wasn't that log ago we had a thread here about the maroon (not the MSU variety) whose gun was taken while he open carried. Good way to arm thugs:
One example: LINK 1
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The foregoing examples are called clues. People who can't understand clues are known as "clueless."
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 4:56 pm to RoIITide
quote:Your taking waaayyyy to much credit away from criminals. People do that all of the time because they don't wholly understand the different gamuts of criminals
bullshite, your giving too much credit to some animal out looking for trouble
Underestimating your opponent is a BIG mistake
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 4:57 pm
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