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Who'd a Thunk - M&P Too Dangerous for Cops to Carry
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:36 am
Public Service Announcement - pulling the trigger on a loaded firearm can cause it to discharge.
Maybe the folks who carry an M&P need to re-think their choicem ????
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Maybe the folks who carry an M&P need to re-think their choicem ????
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This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:40 am to dawg23
I've been preaching this for years. So much naivety in the gun culture world. People misuse just about every product ever built, yet some segments of our society believe this can't happen with handguns. It's really hilarious.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:40 am to dawg23
Whole lot of stupid in that report
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:42 am to dawg23
quote:
The report, an advance copy of which was obtained by CNN, found that a sheriff's department training program for deputies converting to the new gun is inadequate.
"We conclude that the current training program is insufficient to overcome old habits learned on other handguns," the 52-page report states. "As a result, many deputies appear to be to undertrained for the weapon they are using."
I don't understand how training has to be different from one gun to the next. Keeping your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire is a pretty universal theme. Sounds like someone is making excuses for nefarious reasons (probably CYA).
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:43 am to dawg23
This is just strange. We transitioned from the Beretta to the Glock with no issues
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:44 am to upgrayedd
Until a fringe off your coat tail gets in the trigger guard while you're holstering and BLAM
No way I'd ever carry a gun that has no manual safety or long heavy trigger.
No way I'd ever carry a gun that has no manual safety or long heavy trigger.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:54 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Until a fringe off your coat tail gets in the trigger guard while you're holstering and BLAM
Holstering my Glock I always make sure its clear of obstructions ( jacket, shirt tail, etc). A finger over the trigger guard helps
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:00 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
No way I'd ever carry a gun that has no safety or long heavy trigger.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:15 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:19 am to dawg23
Not sure why anyone is surprised that police are grossly under trained to the point where it borders on dangerous. It's a huge disservice to police and the people around them.
I wonder if I will live to see the day that the money spent buying fun toys like armored personal carriers will be used to actually train our LEO's.
I wonder if I will live to see the day that the money spent buying fun toys like armored personal carriers will be used to actually train our LEO's.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:27 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Until you mess up one time and BLAM
shite happens.
shite happens.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:47 am to dawg23
So they dropped the 92 (which they adopted because they all watched Lethal Weapon and wanted to be Riggs) - and picked up the M&P.
Recall that story where Officer Dumbass shot a subject in the head, while trying to put the safety on a 92? I think that was in L.A., IIRC.
HEY a-hole - keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire and you'll probably be alright.
"No external safety" - that's a feature to me, not a flaw or defective design.
Mandatory:
"This is my safety right here, sir."
Recall that story where Officer Dumbass shot a subject in the head, while trying to put the safety on a 92? I think that was in L.A., IIRC.
HEY a-hole - keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire and you'll probably be alright.
"No external safety" - that's a feature to me, not a flaw or defective design.
Mandatory:
"This is my safety right here, sir."
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:51 am to Ace Midnight
quote:You (should) know better than this.
HEY a-hole - keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire and you'll probably be alright.
"No external safety" - that's a feature to me, not a flaw or defective design.
Mandatory:
"This is my safety right here, sir."
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:55 am to AlxTgr
quote:
You (should) know better than this.
#TeamSig - no (ETA: manual - forgot I was dealing with firearm Nazis) safety (mostly - the SA do).
#TeamGlock - no (ETA: manual - forgot I was dealing with firearm Nazis) safety.
Any idea how many agencies/officers carry those weapons chambered - every single day - without incident?
Now - I haven't jumped on the M&P bandwagon because there's been no compelling reason. Any evidence out there to suggest these weapons are inherently less safe than Glocks or Sigs (Sig classic do have a long DA trigger).
Remember all the warnings about not to (pardon the racism) "Mexican" carry the Glocks when they first came out? Well that's good advice for anybody carrying any pistol and any time.
If you choose Glock or M&P - that also means you have to choose, generally a holster for that specific weapon and be aware or your and the weapon's limitations.
Rule #1 means everyone goes home alive.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:06 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Don't know-don't care. Totally irrelevant.
Any idea how many agencies/officers carry those weapons chambered - every single day - without incident?
quote:You are missing the point entirely.
Now - I haven't jumped on the M&P bandwagon because there's been no compelling reason. Any evidence out there to suggest these weapons are inherently less safe than Glocks or Sigs (Sig classic do have a long DA trigger).
You are acting like everybody is going to do like you do
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:11 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Having a safety doesn't necessarily help either. What if they forget to put the safety on before holstering or if the safety gets disengaged by you're clothes. If that happens you have a very light single action trigger that could easily go off.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:15 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
#TeamGlock - no safety.
Has three
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:16 am to texag7
quote:It has exactly none.
Has three
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:16 am to AlxTgr
quote:
You are acting like everybody is going to do like you do
No weapon can be hardened against carelessness, recklessness or violations of Rule #1. You can put 90 safeties on there.
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