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Waterfowl Retriever Training Questions
Posted on 5/8/13 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/8/13 at 10:38 am
I'm picking up a Chesador this evening.... I want to train this to be my duck dog. I have never trained one before, and I'm looking for some insight on how to go about doing it.
Any books or good training aids out there?
Any books or good training aids out there?
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Posted on 5/8/13 at 10:44 am to geauxcats10
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:07 am to BayouBrawl
what he said - water dog - you will have a good canine citizen and a good retreiver. W/ 1/2 chessie you will rpolly need an E collar too
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:18 am to OntarioTiger
Skip books and get involved with a local HRC and or AKC club. You will learn 200 times more with a group than any book. That being said Water Dog is outdated. Look for books by Evan Graham, and the total retriever video series by Mike Lardy.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:19 am to geauxcats10
The Bible of waterfowl dog training!
How can Water Dog be outdated? It's worked for years, what makes it all of a sudden not work?
How can Water Dog be outdated? It's worked for years, what makes it all of a sudden not work?
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 11:20 am
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:26 am to Da Hammer
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Skip books and get involved with a local HRC and or AKC club. You will learn 200 times more with a group than any book. That being said Water Dog is outdated. Look for books by Evan Graham, and the total retriever video series by Mike Lardy.
You can join these clubs with a mutt?
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:28 am to geauxcats10
Does UKC acknowledge the Chesadoor (or whatever)
When we were big in HRC there were no goldendoodles and others. I only saw 1 poodle ever run a trial
When we were big in HRC there were no goldendoodles and others. I only saw 1 poodle ever run a trial
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:45 am to mylsuhat
Water Dog is "WAY" out dated. Go with Smart Works and join a local club.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:47 am to mylsuhat
Will Water Dog take me step by step, week by week? I'm assuming it starts with the basics (obedience, House-training, Krate Training)
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:48 am to TSam
I've trained over a dozen dogs with Water Dog. They've all been great dogs. I've never run a field trial with them, but always on point in the duck blind. How can that possibly be outdated? Is it old? yes. Does it work? frick yes!
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:49 am to TSam
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:52 am to geauxcats10
quote:
quote:As far as house training or crate training, not really. Obedience and hunting skills, yes. Also, it does take you step by step. Week by week methods are idiotic to say the least. You train your dog on one application until it learns it. If it hasn't fully learned step 1, then going to step 2 will confuse it. All dogs learn at different paces, you just have to let the dog determine how quickly it wants to progress.
Will Water Dog take me step by step, week by week? I'm assuming it starts with the basics (obedience, House-training, Krate Training)
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:52 am to bbvdd
I train high end retrievers part time and get asked your question quite often. A little advice, dogs intelligence are like peoples, some are rocket scientist and others can’t finish high school. Some dogs respond great to heavy pressure while others can’t take any collar pressure. A shock collar is the best training aid invented in the hands of a professional and the worst in the hands of an amateur. My point being no two dogs are trained the same way and knowing how to get the best out of your training sessions is the key. This is what most pro trainers do. In addition depending on how advanced you want your dog the upper end training requires either a lot of equipment or several people to help.
The books and tapes only give tell you how to get your dog to perform a task. Almost 100% of the first time they will do it wrong the first few times and knowing how to correct it is the secret.
The advice about getting involved in a local HRC club is great.
The books and tapes only give tell you how to get your dog to perform a task. Almost 100% of the first time they will do it wrong the first few times and knowing how to correct it is the secret.
The advice about getting involved in a local HRC club is great.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:55 am to TSam
how is a book outdated?
have dogs minds and behaviors evolved that much?
i'm not saying its the best out there, but the methodology without a doubt still works
have dogs minds and behaviors evolved that much?
i'm not saying its the best out there, but the methodology without a doubt still works
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:59 am to BayouBrawl
Just giving my response to a question sorry there is disagreement.
Water Dog while updated in later versions covers very little in what to do when you have a problem. It does give a step by step program but the program doesn't touch on Crate training, Force Fetch, Electronic Collar usage, and many other topics that weather you agree with or disagree with you should be at least familiar with.
As far as a retriever club, I think most clubs would welcome any retriever. AKC will NOT recognize the dog for hunt tests or field trials, UKC might, I am not sure to be honest. However we never talked about running tests and trials we talked about training a dog. That is what retriever clubs are there for. I know my club would welcome you and for that matter my training group in Folsom would welcome you. We are for the dogs not the ribbons or trophies.
Water Dog while updated in later versions covers very little in what to do when you have a problem. It does give a step by step program but the program doesn't touch on Crate training, Force Fetch, Electronic Collar usage, and many other topics that weather you agree with or disagree with you should be at least familiar with.
As far as a retriever club, I think most clubs would welcome any retriever. AKC will NOT recognize the dog for hunt tests or field trials, UKC might, I am not sure to be honest. However we never talked about running tests and trials we talked about training a dog. That is what retriever clubs are there for. I know my club would welcome you and for that matter my training group in Folsom would welcome you. We are for the dogs not the ribbons or trophies.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:08 pm to Croacka
read everything you can there is not 1 perfect way, take pieces and parts from each and you will be fine
Dont rush the training 15 to 20 min a day have fun
Dont rush the training 15 to 20 min a day have fun
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:10 pm to Da Hammer
I'm not looking for a highly technical dog. I want one who will be a good pet and who will mark and retrieve ducks on my command.
It sounds like Water Dog is the best path.
Da Hammer- how old would my dog have to be to bring it to meet you guys?
It sounds like Water Dog is the best path.
Da Hammer- how old would my dog have to be to bring it to meet you guys?
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:23 pm to geauxcats10
quote:any age probably
Da Hammer- how old would my dog have to be to bring it to meet you guys?
you'll at least be able to watch the guys train
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:49 pm to mylsuhat
We welcome any age do to train. I am speaking of Pontchartrain HRC in New Orleans. We meet on Satrudays, Wednesdays and some Thursdays in the Bonnet Carre Spillway in Norco.
We also have a group that trains on the northshore, in Folsom. Most of the time it's at my farm, however we also train on 2000 acres in near cranky corner that we use among a few other places. Any age or person is welcome when we train. Many people use my place when I am not even there.
We also have a group that trains on the northshore, in Folsom. Most of the time it's at my farm, however we also train on 2000 acres in near cranky corner that we use among a few other places. Any age or person is welcome when we train. Many people use my place when I am not even there.
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