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re: Spring Weed Guide For Lawns

Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:49 am to
what is the shelf life on the simazine? I can buy 4L (4.22 quarts) for about $100 and I will need 1 quart for treatment and another 1 quart for retreatment per your suggestion.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:27 pm to
I've used it up to 18 months later, stored in a cool cabinet out of the sun. Didn't see any difference in efficacy.
Posted by ChadJones4Heisman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
2406 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:59 pm to
I'm seeing 4L of simazine for around $100 as well. You said it doesn't work for clovers, so I am leaning towards the Specticle FLO, but the prices on that are ridiculous. Do you know where I can find some smaller bottles of it?
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 6:49 pm to
Clovers are so easy to kill with a post emergent, I'd just go with the Simazine. Just my opinion. I'll check with my chemical rep this week and see what size bottles he can get.
Posted by ChadJones4Heisman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
2406 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:05 pm to
That would be great brother! Thanks
Posted by ChadJones4Heisman
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:03 am to
Bump for Boot. Did you get a price on that simazine?
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 1:28 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 7:44 am
Posted by doggy dirty
Member since Feb 2009
81 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:23 am to
Bump.

This thread has been invaluable to me as a new homeowner. The previous owners apparently cared very little for lawn care so I've had my work cut out.

Question:

I recently received the results of two soil tests for my front and back yards from LSU Ag and both tests show that I have relatively acidic soil (5.4 & 5.8) and very high Calcium (1930 & 2400 ppm). The recommendation was to add Lime which I know is the common recommendation for increasing the pH, but this seems odd to me since it will increase Ca.

Any insight into this situation? I can provide more info on other elements if necessary.

Great thread, thanks!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:25 am to
Not reading this whole thread.

My Spring work did not get it done. About to mow for the last time this year. Is there anything I need to do now as far as chemicals are concerned? I have all sorts of crap in my St. Aug. A lot of some kind of sedge but it's not regular nutsedge.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:52 am to
I haven't been on here lately so I missed this being brought up. The 4L in Simizine 4L and Atrazine 4L is not a volume indicator. It is a strength/concentration indicator. I'm not positive, I'll have to look into it when I get back but its something like 4g/L.

Bootlegger, what is the application rate/acre for Simizine and Atrazine 4L I can't seem to find that.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:09 am to
doggy- what type of lawn grass are you trying to cater to? That will determine where you want your pH.

Alx- right now I wouldn't be too concerned with killing much, as most everything is approaching dormancy. A good preemergent will keep the winter weeds at bay. The sedge you are seeing is probably green kyllinga. Google the images and you should be able to tell. It grows in small green patches and makes a small, solid burr-type head.

Citica- Simtrol is 32oz per acre for annual bluegrass, 60-64 oz per acre if you're wanting to control winter broadleaves as well.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:17 am to
That's significantly higher than I thought.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:24 am to
Straight from the Simazine 4L label



The Atrazine is 32oz per acre.

I have the labels for everything I use in a file in my desk. Needed quick references once this thread got started
Hard to remember it all.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 9:26 am
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:44 am to
I don't disagree with the rate, saw 16oz/acre somewhere mine didn't come with a label...
Posted by doggy dirty
Member since Feb 2009
81 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:46 am to
It is bermuda in the back and centipede in the front. The recommendation from LSU Ag was to add lime to both.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:54 am to
You're fine on pH for the centipede:


And on the low end for the Bermuda:


Not sure why they recommended adding for the centipede. I used their own article to reference the pH.
Posted by doggy dirty
Member since Feb 2009
81 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:00 am to
What is the negative effect of the very high calcium, if any?
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 2:28 pm to
late getting my simazine down but, the label notes not apply in the drip line of trees unless listed. I do not see hickory in the list but pecan is there, nor do I see white or post oak but red oak is there.

any idea if I can apply under:

white oak
post oak
crepe myrtle
cedar elm
hickory
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

The sedge you are seeing is probably green kyllinga. Google the images and you should be able to tell. It grows in small green patches and makes a small, solid burr-type head.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 3:14 pm to
I would feel safe using it under those trees, IF they were established. As in several years old. Again, the label is the law, so don't expect them to bear any responsibility if the trees are affected. Without them being listed on the label though, there's only one way to find out...
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