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re: Sales tax now levied on private boat sales

Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Are you saying that if you buy a boat thats already in Louisiana you have to pay sales tax on the purchase?

If so, thats complete BS


Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, but other movables such as cars are taxed on each sale. New or used. I don't see why boats would be exempt?
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, but other movables such as cars are taxed on each sale. New or used. I don't see why boats would be exempt?


Again, I really thought this was always the case. It's just that nobody actually did it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, but other movables such as cars are taxed on each sale. New or used. I don't see why boats would be exempt?


Because they were not the thing that traveled on the road. Only the trailer was. This is a change.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:16 pm to
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Again, I really thought this was always the case. It's just that nobody actually did it.



I've never owned or registered a boat. Do you not have to go to LDWF or DMV and transfer the ownership?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:18 pm to
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I've never owned or registered a boat. Do you not have to go to LDWF or DMV and transfer the ownership?


Neither really. Ownership transfers by the exchange. The problem comes in with registration of each. Boat with LDWF. Trailer with DMV.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Do you not have to go to LDWF or DMV and transfer the ownership?



Both. DWF for the hull and DMV for the trailer.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:20 pm to
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The problem comes in with registration of each. Boat with LDWF


So LDWF wasn't collecting taxes when you went to register the vessel?
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:33 pm to
Nope. If you bought the boat at an instate dealer the dealer collected the taxes. Out of state you paid the sales tax in that state and if there was a difference you made it up at registration in state.

Private boat sales did not have a sales tax. You only paid sales tax on the trailer and rightfully so.

You have to pay sales tax on girl scout cookies now so non of this is really surprising.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:54 pm to
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Private boat sales did not have a sales tax. You only paid sales tax on the trailer and rightfully so.


Private boat sales did not have a sales tax or people were simply not reporting/collecting?

If I buy a used vehicle in LA private party, I'm paying sales tax at the DMV when I register said vehicle. Don't really see why a similar movable would be exempt.

Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:04 pm to
quote:


Private boat sales did not have a sales tax or people were simply not reporting/collecting?


Sales tax was not collected on transfers of boats. You only paid for registration.


quote:

Don't really see why a similar movable would be exempt.



I suppose you have a point, but you drive a car on the road so they are subject to sales tax. A boat hull is a little different. You don't collect sales tax when you sell your outboard, or fishing rod, or your sisters panties. So why collect it on a hull?

It's a moot point now anyway. People are just going to donate their boats to the buyer or scribble down a fraction of the actual sales price.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:08 pm to
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If I buy a used vehicle in LA private party, I'm paying sales tax at the DMV when I register said vehicle. Don't really see why a similar movable would be exempt.

Because other movables are not operated on the road and subject to DMV registration.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

It's a moot point now anyway. People are just going to donate their boats to the buyer or scribble down a fraction of the actual sales price.


When you sell a vehicle in LA private party, the taxable value of the vehicle is determined by the DMV, not the sales price. Donations of vehicles can only be done with family or to charity.

Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:11 pm to
Private sales did not have a tax. If there was, LDWF wouldn't have issued registration without proof of taxes paid. Now there is a tax and you have to show proof that you paid it when you register the boat. I'm sure prices on paper for boats are going to be similar to prices on paper for trailers. Far lower than the money actually exchanged.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Because other movables are not operated on the road and subject to DMV registration.



But they are subject to state registration. I don't see the difference. You register your boat to navigate state-managed waterways.
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:13 pm to
Value of trailers is determined by notarized bill of sale at dmv. Which in most cases is $50-100, regardless of the actual value of the trailer. There is no real standard for used boat values.
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:16 pm to
The state doesn't use tax dollars to maintain the waterways. They also don't use tax dollars to police them. LDWF is self funded by license sales and boat registrations.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

But they are subject to state registration. I don't see the difference. You register your boat to navigate state-managed waterways.


That doesn't really mean anything.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4714 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:42 pm to
In between your brake tags and this how do you move 2 feet in that state without having to pay for some new shite. Here you don't even need a trailer tag.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

That doesn't really mean anything.



Well, you bought a movable in Louisiana and intend to register it in the state. I can see why sales taxes are applicable. That's all I was stating.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29409 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 5:16 pm to
I fricking hate politicians with a passion.

All those cocksuckers do is sit around and think of new ways to frick us out of more and more money to waste.

Who's the cocksucker who sponsored this bill so I can write them a nice letter or give them a phone call?
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