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Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:12 am to dnm3305
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But do they really? If they are not at least competent in using it, what do they really have?
Yes, my gf is plenty competent and even though she would like to practice more, it simply can't be a priority. But she is no less capable of defending herself as it is now.
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I have friends and family that have property all over, just like nearly every single person does in south Louisiana.
You make an assumption not in evidence. I hardly know anyone with enough land and located where it would be safe to shoot on. Most people live in developed areas, their only real choice is an established range. It's not reasonble that everyone who owns a firearm for SD to attain the level of proficiency you expect.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:14 am to dnm3305
quote:Do you think that should be the prerequisite for someone to bow hunt.
Well, yes actually I do. I shoot every single day.
ETA - oh and I doubt that in the last 365 days your have shot 365 times
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:15 am to Clames
So the moral of the story is:
Buying the wife a revolver is the correct thing to do for OP, although he should realize that his wife has unknowingly given him the green light to get a .44 magnum.
Buying the wife a revolver is the correct thing to do for OP, although he should realize that his wife has unknowingly given him the green light to get a .44 magnum.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:21 am to Clames
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Yes, my gf is plenty competent and even though she would like to practice more, it simply can't be a priority. But she is no less capable of defending herself as it is now.
Then that's all Im saying. Practice to get to a certain point of competency to where you know the weapon and trust the weapon.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 11:13 am
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:21 am to Clames
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You make an assumption not in evidence. I hardly know anyone with enough land and located where it would be safe to shoot on. Most people live in developed areas, their only real choice is an established range. It's not reasonble that everyone who owns a firearm for SD to attain the level of proficiency you expect.
I thought everyone that posted here lived in the country
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:27 am to Citica8
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ETA - oh and I doubt that in the last 365 days your have shot 365 times
Strawman? I in fact do miss a day every now and then. Some days it's about 30 arrows. Some days it's 100. Some days it's 3. Some days it shooting groups at 90-100 yards. Some days it's walking to random spots without a range finder. Some days I climb on the roof of my house and shoot into my backyard. Some days I hold for 30+ seconds on a knee. If I miss a day here or there, I more than make up for it with my typical shooting routine. And if you really want to be techinical, I bet I have shot considerably more than 365 times in the last 365 days when you consider on alot of days, especially the weekends this time of year, I shoot multiple times when possible. If it's waking up early in the morning and slinging 10 arrows in the backyard, then going to FIL's house and shooting with him, then perhaps sipping a beer and listening to LSU game on radio and shooting some more. That's three total times in one day. That happens more than me missing a day.
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Do you think that should be the prerequisite for someone to bow hunt.
I think that's the prerequisite for someone to become as accurate as possible and perfect in their mechanics. Alot of people hunt without hardly ever shooting a bow/gun. That doesnt make it right.
I also believe that people should be very physically fit to hunt as well, but most people arent.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:53 am to dnm3305
quote:Really? You did this in the last thread about using a .223 on a deer. You make these blanket statements then someone calls you on your ignorance and you spew out your resume of what activities and practices under a specific set of ideal circumstances you do to justify it.
Strawman?
You clearly must be unemployed and living with your parents to shoot your bow EVERY SINGLE DAY, supervise your SO becoming proficient in her hand gun, shooting all your other guns enough to become proficient, and working out to be physically fit enough to hunt.
I'd love to stay on here and argue with you about how much of a tool you sound like, but I have to go work out, shoot my bow and all my guns, then work my dog, take care of my house, and show my kid how to be a man.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:09 am to Citica8
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Really? You did this in the last thread about using a .223 on a deer. You make these blanket statements then someone calls you on your ignorance and you spew out your resume of what activities and practices under a specific set of ideal circumstances you do to justify it.
Is that the thread where I was constantly saying it's ok to use a .223 on deer in the right context and within it's limitations. If you disagree with that, then you are ignorant.
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someone calls you on your ignorance and you spew out your resume of what activities and practices
The only reason I mentioned that is because you challenged whether or not I shoot 365 days a year (as if I meant every day in the literal sense). YOU were being a condescending a-hole for no reason because you apparently have a problem with me and I answered with a detailed statement to call YOU on your bullshite.
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supervise your SO becoming proficient in her hand gun
We try to shoot at least 5-6 times a month. We enjoy it because shooting is fun.
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working out to be physically fit enough to hunt
Yes, I do workout. I like to be in shape and I like to look good as well.
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I'd love to stay on here and argue with you about how much of a tool you sound like
In what way am I being a tool? This entire thread was started by the OP about the Ruger Redhawk. It developed into a semi/revolver thread and then on the morals of shooting frequency.
Edit: You sure are a dickhead, especially when there's no reason to be.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:26 am to dnm3305
Well this turned into a fun pissing match.
The assertion that DNM is addressing is one that Mack said himself - she doesn't like semi automatics because of the recoil impulse. This implies that she has done it and is capable of doing it. A lighter recoil impulse can be attained by getting a heavier gun and/or reducing the size of the cartridge (typically).
But if she prefers the simplicity of a revolver, that is perfectly fine. For the vast majority of people who carry a gun for self defense, an autoloading handgun trumps a revolver all day long. Ask 95% of people what they have at home or on their body and it is most likely a semi auto. Is this because people prefer clearing jams from semi autos? No, it's because the technology has come a long way and they are extremely reliable. There's a learning curve just like anything else. It's not rocket science.
What areas? I'd love to come sling some lead with you.
The assertion that DNM is addressing is one that Mack said himself - she doesn't like semi automatics because of the recoil impulse. This implies that she has done it and is capable of doing it. A lighter recoil impulse can be attained by getting a heavier gun and/or reducing the size of the cartridge (typically).
But if she prefers the simplicity of a revolver, that is perfectly fine. For the vast majority of people who carry a gun for self defense, an autoloading handgun trumps a revolver all day long. Ask 95% of people what they have at home or on their body and it is most likely a semi auto. Is this because people prefer clearing jams from semi autos? No, it's because the technology has come a long way and they are extremely reliable. There's a learning curve just like anything else. It's not rocket science.
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I have friends and family that have property all over, just like nearly every single person does in south Louisiana.
What areas? I'd love to come sling some lead with you.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:29 am to bapple
Damn moochers 
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:32 am to bapple
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What areas? I'd love to come sling some lead with you.
Acadia Parish and the surrounding areas. My mother remarried into a farm on the outskirts of Rayne which I where I shoot my bow most of time. FIL has 28 acres in outskirts of same area. Good friend lives in Indian Bayou and has ton of land. Uncle lives in same area and loves to shoot skeet. Plus the typical outlawing off a bridge on the backroads in the country
If we're shooting rifles/pistols it's typically at FIL's house.Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:41 am to dnm3305
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It's time to stop accepting the way things are and always have been and try to change things for the better.
I think if you are serious about this you should have open range day once a month to where the general public can come practice on all of this land you have access to, rather than bitching on forums.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:48 am to Buck_Rogers
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I think if you are serious about this you should have open range day once a month to where the general public can come practice on all of this land you have access to, rather than bitching on forums
Bitching? I was simply defending my stance on this. If you want your woman wielding a six shooter for the second time ever in her life at an intruder, then by all fricking means, go for it man. Let's just let this go. We just have a difference of opinion and naturally we both think we're right. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:00 pm to dnm3305
quote:I had no issues with the self imposed limitations FWIW, but if I remember correctly your GF has the .223 inside ~50 yards on a perfect broadside shot with a 7mag back up, which is responsible but not a very good argument. That's the equivalent of saying "I have so much confidence in this single stack .380, that I also open carry a .44 mag"
Is that the thread where I was constantly saying it's ok to use a .223 on deer in the right context and within it's limitations. If you disagree with that, then you are ignorant.
quote:I asked if you shot your bow multiple times a week (3-4, year round), you said every single day. So, I called bullshite... You could have easily said "Yeah, At least 3-4 a week, I try to shoot everyday and have for __ years", but you went in another direction. I then asked if you think everyone should do that to be required to bow hunt. Your response was some "This is what I do" bullshite followed by "I work out and think everyone should to hunt" which.....
The only reason I mentioned that is because you challenged whether or not I shoot 365 days a year (as if I meant every day in the literal sense)
< that's all I got. I haven't pulled my bow out but maybe 3 times in the last 2 years, I have 100% confidence that inside 35 yards I can put 10:10 in the boiler room on a target, but I haven't bow hunted in 3 years.
quote:I get that a lot, but no issue with you personally, we didn't have a debate team in school so I'm just venting my frustrations out on TDs so I don't get fired at work. On a serious note, I just think if you truly do what you claim to do, you have a lot more free time and probably a lot less responsibility than most people.... and maybe you aren't the most qualified to be dishing out the rules to live and hunt by.
YOU were being a condescending a-hole for no reason because you apparently have a problem with me
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:20 pm to dnm3305
This would be a pretty boring place to kill time if we all had the same opinion. I was just trying to get some people some free range time who need the practice. Personally I'm very particular with who I shoot with.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:25 pm to Citica8
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ou have a lot more free time and probably a lot less responsibility than most people
Well I dont have kids yet so that's makes it pretty flexible, but I do have to put forth the effort just like anyone else to make time, most of the time. I have a schedule just like anyone else does and try to cram as much into it as I can. Get off of work at 3:30 and try to make the most of my free time. If it's getting to the gym right when I get off, then gonig home and defrosting meat to cook with, then grabbing the bow and running out for 30 mins to shoot followed by coming back home begin cooking and help with laundry if it needs be. We walk the dog 3-4 times a wk, then I finally sit down and relax at about 8pm every night.
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I haven't pulled my bow out but maybe 3 times in the last 2 years, I have 100% confidence that inside 35 yards I can put 10:10 in the boiler room on a target, but I haven't bow hunted in 3 years.
I'll let you answer yourself.
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maybe you aren't the most qualified to be dishing out the rules to live and hunt by
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:35 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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wife has unknowingly given him the green light to get a .44 magnum.
true man of genius!
dang, i really started a holy war (unintended) with this thread.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:00 pm to dnm3305
Maybe I haven't bow hunted in 3 years because I don't have the free time in October 
I used to shoot multiple says a week when I was in school living with my parents.
I work 3000+ hours a year, with a wife and kid my alarm goes off at 3:30 and I don't shut my eyes till 11 on a good night but you keep walking your dogs and cooking
I used to shoot multiple says a week when I was in school living with my parents. I work 3000+ hours a year, with a wife and kid my alarm goes off at 3:30 and I don't shut my eyes till 11 on a good night but you keep walking your dogs and cooking
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:03 pm to Citica8
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but you keep walking your dogs and cooking
As if that's meant to be a demeaning task. And Im sorry life has you by the balls and I truly wish you had more time to enjoy the outdoors.
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