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re: Recommendations for buying first handgun
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:32 am to Ed Osteen
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:32 am to Ed Osteen
I owned a glock and what i didnt like about it was a "positive" safety. Its like a revolver in a semi auto chassis. Pull the trigger and it shoots. Not that there is anything wrong with that. For a first gun i would get one with a safety lever. Just my .02
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:35 am to Ed Osteen
Pass on the XD and get a S&W M&P with apex trigger kit or an HK P30
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:41 am to Ed Osteen
Get em bub!
And my recommendation is a S&W m&p9.
And my recommendation is a S&W m&p9.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:47 am to holmesbr
quote:
I owned a glock and what i didnt like about it was a "positive" safety. Its like a revolver in a semi auto chassis. Pull the trigger and it shoots. Not that there is anything wrong with that. For a first gun i would get one with a safety lever. Just my .02
That is horrible advice. There's WAY more shite about a glock to dislike.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:27 am to Ed Osteen
Ed,
As you've seen, you're going to get a gazillion different recs for a gazillion different guns. Most handgun owners have a tendency to think THEIR gun is the best gun for EVERYONE. That's only natural. OTOH, what YOU want to find is the best gun for YOU.
First, you need to do some research about different gun traits so you can simplify your purchase by deciding WHAT you like (or maybe, what you DON'T like). Then look for the model(s) that fit your criteria:
Reliability record.
Action: DAO, SAO, DA/SA, Striker fired?
Frame: Steel, polymer, aluminum alloy?
External safety levers: Yes or no? grip safety?
Mag capacity?
Accessory rail: yes or no?
The main guns I'd point most people to would be: Ruger SR series
S&W M&P series
Glock, esp M17 and M19.
Sig (I can't keep track of all their different models......)
Springfield Armory XD series, especially the Service Model
Beretta
CZ
ETA: H&K (may be too expensive) and Walther.
Get a full size frame gun, not a compact. Since you're not going to carry it, I'd suggest a double stack magazine configuration, as long as you find one that fits your hand. Handle and shoot as many of the contenders as you can. And remember, a nice revolver in 38 Spec/357 Mag is NEVER a bad choice for home defense/self defense.
Of course, don't forget that a shotgun in 12 or 20 gauge is prolly the single best home defense gun.
Caliber? The rounds that have the best track record for self defense use are 9mm, 357 Sig, 40 S&W, 357 Mag, and 45 ACP. In a semi-auto, I'd usually recommend 9mm. When ammo's available, the 9mm is less expensive and easier to find; it's also easier for most to shoot well, especially w/ rapid, accurate shots.
The Springfield XD service model you mentioned is a fine gun. I had one in 40 S&W before finding out it was not suited for me concealed carry.
Really good info here.
Semi-auto's LINK
Revolvers LINK
As you've seen, you're going to get a gazillion different recs for a gazillion different guns. Most handgun owners have a tendency to think THEIR gun is the best gun for EVERYONE. That's only natural. OTOH, what YOU want to find is the best gun for YOU.
First, you need to do some research about different gun traits so you can simplify your purchase by deciding WHAT you like (or maybe, what you DON'T like). Then look for the model(s) that fit your criteria:
Reliability record.
Action: DAO, SAO, DA/SA, Striker fired?
Frame: Steel, polymer, aluminum alloy?
External safety levers: Yes or no? grip safety?
Mag capacity?
Accessory rail: yes or no?
The main guns I'd point most people to would be: Ruger SR series
S&W M&P series
Glock, esp M17 and M19.
Sig (I can't keep track of all their different models......)
Springfield Armory XD series, especially the Service Model
Beretta
CZ
ETA: H&K (may be too expensive) and Walther.
Get a full size frame gun, not a compact. Since you're not going to carry it, I'd suggest a double stack magazine configuration, as long as you find one that fits your hand. Handle and shoot as many of the contenders as you can. And remember, a nice revolver in 38 Spec/357 Mag is NEVER a bad choice for home defense/self defense.
Of course, don't forget that a shotgun in 12 or 20 gauge is prolly the single best home defense gun.
Caliber? The rounds that have the best track record for self defense use are 9mm, 357 Sig, 40 S&W, 357 Mag, and 45 ACP. In a semi-auto, I'd usually recommend 9mm. When ammo's available, the 9mm is less expensive and easier to find; it's also easier for most to shoot well, especially w/ rapid, accurate shots.
The Springfield XD service model you mentioned is a fine gun. I had one in 40 S&W before finding out it was not suited for me concealed carry.
Really good info here.
Semi-auto's LINK
Revolvers LINK
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:41 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Tiger has some great advice.
You just really need to figure out what it's gonna be used for first.
Watch my video on YouTube about buying your first gun:
First Time Buyers
You just really need to figure out what it's gonna be used for first.
Watch my video on YouTube about buying your first gun:
First Time Buyers
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:28 pm to bapple
There really needs to be a sticky on this topic since it comes up at least once a week.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:29 pm to 03GeeTee
There are a few in the FAQ thread.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:41 pm to 03GeeTee
quote:
There really needs to be a sticky on this topic since it comes up at least once a week.
Amen bro. Completely agree.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:44 pm to Nodust
Yea I think it's all up in the FAQ tgread
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:48 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I'm going to start linking them in the FAQ. Maybe flair can update one of his earlier saved posts for pistol choice threads.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 2:55 pm to PapaPogey
quote:
And my recommendation is the M&P 9
And that would be one hell of a recommendation. Just installed the apex aek trigger last night to compliment the dcaek kit and ram kit in mine. Awesome trigger now. Like maybe a little too good...
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:15 pm to LouisianaChessie
quote:
Just installed the apex aek trigger last night to compliment the dcaek kit and ram kit in mine. Awesome trigger now. Like maybe a little too good...
Installed the Forward Set Sear and Trigger kit in my dad's M&P40 on Friday. Not all that difficult to do and now it feels like sex. The difference really is astounding.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:19 pm to bapple
quote:
Trigger kit
Which one? My M&P is a compact and is what I carry daily. I would have the competition kit ram kit and aek trigger in a full size.
Eta: and no they aren't hard to install and yes they are awesome
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:23 pm to LouisianaChessie
quote:
Which one?
This exact one.
MidwayUSA - Forward Set Sear and Trigger Kit
It includes the new trigger, plus a new sear, firing pin block, and springs.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:27 pm to bapple
Nice. The ram kit is also a must have and is the simplest piece if the puzzle. Creates an audible click when the trigger is reset. You can feel it and don't have to worry about taking up the extra double action slack. It also creates a way to reset your trigger if your return spring ever breaks
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:34 pm to LouisianaChessie
Is the RAM kit (which I know stands for "reset assist mechanism") just a new firing pin block and spring? Or is there more to it than that?
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:45 pm to bapple
If remember right it doesn't replace anything. It slides into the hole on directly under the sear.
Where the safety would be if it had a thumb safety.
Where the safety would be if it had a thumb safety.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:48 pm to LouisianaChessie
I'll have to give it a look. Thanks for the info.
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