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re: Recommendations for buying first handgun

Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:32 am to
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
2987 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:32 am to
I owned a glock and what i didnt like about it was a "positive" safety. Its like a revolver in a semi auto chassis. Pull the trigger and it shoots. Not that there is anything wrong with that. For a first gun i would get one with a safety lever. Just my .02
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:35 am to
Pass on the XD and get a S&W M&P with apex trigger kit or an HK P30
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39421 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:41 am to
Get em bub!

And my recommendation is a S&W m&p9.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:42 am
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:47 am to
quote:

I owned a glock and what i didnt like about it was a "positive" safety. Its like a revolver in a semi auto chassis. Pull the trigger and it shoots. Not that there is anything wrong with that. For a first gun i would get one with a safety lever. Just my .02


That is horrible advice. There's WAY more shite about a glock to dislike.



Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39421 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:48 am to
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:27 am to
Ed,
As you've seen, you're going to get a gazillion different recs for a gazillion different guns. Most handgun owners have a tendency to think THEIR gun is the best gun for EVERYONE. That's only natural. OTOH, what YOU want to find is the best gun for YOU.

First, you need to do some research about different gun traits so you can simplify your purchase by deciding WHAT you like (or maybe, what you DON'T like). Then look for the model(s) that fit your criteria:
Reliability record.
Action: DAO, SAO, DA/SA, Striker fired?
Frame: Steel, polymer, aluminum alloy?
External safety levers: Yes or no? grip safety?
Mag capacity?
Accessory rail: yes or no?

The main guns I'd point most people to would be: Ruger SR series
S&W M&P series
Glock, esp M17 and M19.
Sig (I can't keep track of all their different models......)
Springfield Armory XD series, especially the Service Model
Beretta
CZ
ETA: H&K (may be too expensive) and Walther.

Get a full size frame gun, not a compact. Since you're not going to carry it, I'd suggest a double stack magazine configuration, as long as you find one that fits your hand. Handle and shoot as many of the contenders as you can. And remember, a nice revolver in 38 Spec/357 Mag is NEVER a bad choice for home defense/self defense.

Of course, don't forget that a shotgun in 12 or 20 gauge is prolly the single best home defense gun.

Caliber? The rounds that have the best track record for self defense use are 9mm, 357 Sig, 40 S&W, 357 Mag, and 45 ACP. In a semi-auto, I'd usually recommend 9mm. When ammo's available, the 9mm is less expensive and easier to find; it's also easier for most to shoot well, especially w/ rapid, accurate shots.

The Springfield XD service model you mentioned is a fine gun. I had one in 40 S&W before finding out it was not suited for me concealed carry.

Really good info here.
Semi-auto's LINK
Revolvers LINK
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 8:05 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:41 pm to
Tiger has some great advice.

You just really need to figure out what it's gonna be used for first.

Watch my video on YouTube about buying your first gun:

First Time Buyers
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3371 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:28 pm to
There really needs to be a sticky on this topic since it comes up at least once a week.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:29 pm to
There are a few in the FAQ thread.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

There really needs to be a sticky on this topic since it comes up at least once a week.


Amen bro. Completely agree.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:44 pm to
Yea I think it's all up in the FAQ tgread
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:48 pm to
I'm going to start linking them in the FAQ. Maybe flair can update one of his earlier saved posts for pistol choice threads.
Posted by LouisianaChessie
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
2582 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

And my recommendation is the M&P 9


And that would be one hell of a recommendation. Just installed the apex aek trigger last night to compliment the dcaek kit and ram kit in mine. Awesome trigger now. Like maybe a little too good...
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Just installed the apex aek trigger last night to compliment the dcaek kit and ram kit in mine. Awesome trigger now. Like maybe a little too good...


Installed the Forward Set Sear and Trigger kit in my dad's M&P40 on Friday. Not all that difficult to do and now it feels like sex. The difference really is astounding.
Posted by LouisianaChessie
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
2582 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Trigger kit

Which one? My M&P is a compact and is what I carry daily. I would have the competition kit ram kit and aek trigger in a full size.

Eta: and no they aren't hard to install and yes they are awesome
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 3:20 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Which one?


This exact one.

MidwayUSA - Forward Set Sear and Trigger Kit

It includes the new trigger, plus a new sear, firing pin block, and springs.
Posted by LouisianaChessie
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
2582 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:27 pm to
Nice. The ram kit is also a must have and is the simplest piece if the puzzle. Creates an audible click when the trigger is reset. You can feel it and don't have to worry about taking up the extra double action slack. It also creates a way to reset your trigger if your return spring ever breaks
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:34 pm to
Is the RAM kit (which I know stands for "reset assist mechanism") just a new firing pin block and spring? Or is there more to it than that?
Posted by LouisianaChessie
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
2582 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:45 pm to
If remember right it doesn't replace anything. It slides into the hole on directly under the sear.

Where the safety would be if it had a thumb safety.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:48 pm to
I'll have to give it a look. Thanks for the info.
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