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re: Rage Hypodermic Broadhead Reviews
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:01 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:01 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Really?
Yes, really. You took a broad statement that I made when referring to the first few posts of this thread that reinforced the notion that mechanical broadheads are susceptible to failure, and just put "so false". Well, no. It's not false. Mechanical things fail, in all walks of life. My very livelihood rests on the fact that all things mechanical fail, eventually.
FAILURE
FAILURE
FAILURE
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:01 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
And if you walk up to a wall enough times you will eventually pass through it.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:02 am to AlxTgr
quote:
What bone?
The fwd most bone in the rib cage.
quote:
The failure stories, which are pure myth, always come with the line, "My shot was perfect".
That is irrelevant. Are we discussing shot placement? No, we arent.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:11 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Well to be fair, a mechanical head is more likely to have mechanical problems than a non-mechanical head. That isn't debatable.
Fascinating statement.. But,,my statement basically said that "all these variables" have never happened to ME,, since I started using/killing with them mannnnnny years ago, when they 1st came out. Plus, the fact remains,, there are lots on here that spout what they read or see on TV. Would you consider those to be fair statements? Please hurry,, I'm holding my breath!
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:18 am to dnm3305
quote:Did you even watch this? Not only is it Rage, which you did not limit your idiotic statement o, the deer bled like frick and died. The head was never shown. The hunter doesn't even know if it failed.
FAILURE
quote:Again, Rage. No idea what you're really getting from that video.
FAILURE
quote:Did you watch this?
FAILURE
Are you ok?
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:19 am to dnm3305
quote:A rib?
What bone?
The fwd most bone in the rib cage.
quote:No it's not. OTOH I'm starting to figure out that you really are incapable of thought, so there's that.
The failure stories, which are pure myth, always come with the line, "My shot was perfect".
That is irrelevant. Are we discussing shot placement? No, we arent.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:26 am to AlxTgr
Stop it alx, dammit! It's serious bidness to post ewe tube videos!!
Although, it would be more credible if they watched and not just goggled titles.
Although, it would be more credible if they watched and not just goggled titles.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:28 am to AlxTgr
quote:
No it's not. OTOH I'm starting to figure out that you really are incapable of thought, so there's that.
Back to insults I see. You sure are mature. I really dont understand what your argument is. Youre stating that a mechanical head will never fail. Youre simply wrong.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:32 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Did you watch this? Are you ok?
Are you saying the broadhead in that video did not fail?
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Well to be fair, a mechanical head is more likely to have mechanical problems than a non-mechanical head. That isn't debatable.
Of course its not debatable. But because I said it, it will be debated. That dude just cant stay off my dick.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:49 am to Ole Geauxt
Well I'm not going to tell you that you're full of shite about never having one fail. Just because they can doesn't mean they have to. I know people who have never had a problem with them and probably never will. It isn't hard to find someone who has had a problem with one though.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:54 am to dnm3305
After further review and attempted replacement of blades on the NAP killzone blades, I will not be reusing, repairing or replacing them further.
The NAP killzone has a sliding bolt that binds the blades. As noted before the bolt is small diameter steel and has an exposed hex or screw head and nut. the small diameter and comparatively longer shaft bolt is more prone to bending due to impact. The exposed head and nut creates drag on the broadhead in flight and at penetration although likely minimal. It also increases the potential that the bolt comes un fastened. The sliding function of the steel bolt is dependent on a smooth groove for it to slide in. Since the body of the head is Aluminum, it is prone to nicks and dents from the bolt and blades causing it to be unsmooth and increasing potential for the blades to not open properly.
The Rage xtreme has a stationary screw that the blades slide/pivot around. The screw is stainless steel, allen wrench head and is counter sunk in the head so there is no part of it exposed. This IMO is a better design and has less moving parts and potential for improper deployment of the blades. (I really see no potential for mechanical failure other than possibly not hitting a target with sufficient resistance to impart enough force on the broadhead to open it.
The NAP killzone has a sliding bolt that binds the blades. As noted before the bolt is small diameter steel and has an exposed hex or screw head and nut. the small diameter and comparatively longer shaft bolt is more prone to bending due to impact. The exposed head and nut creates drag on the broadhead in flight and at penetration although likely minimal. It also increases the potential that the bolt comes un fastened. The sliding function of the steel bolt is dependent on a smooth groove for it to slide in. Since the body of the head is Aluminum, it is prone to nicks and dents from the bolt and blades causing it to be unsmooth and increasing potential for the blades to not open properly.
The Rage xtreme has a stationary screw that the blades slide/pivot around. The screw is stainless steel, allen wrench head and is counter sunk in the head so there is no part of it exposed. This IMO is a better design and has less moving parts and potential for improper deployment of the blades. (I really see no potential for mechanical failure other than possibly not hitting a target with sufficient resistance to impart enough force on the broadhead to open it.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:54 am to dnm3305
quote:Insults are underrated, but if you can't see the failure in your presentation then something is really wrong.
Back to insults I see.
quote:I have a head that will never fail. fact.
Youre stating that a mechanical head will never fail. Youre simply wrong.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:55 am to dnm3305
quote:No one could possibly know if it did or not. Did you even watch it?
Did you watch this? Are you ok?
Are you saying the broadhead in that video did not fail?
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:55 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Well I'm not going to tell you that you're full of shite about never having one fail. Just because they can doesn't mean they have to. I know people who have never had a problem with them and probably never will
Absolutely. Im not saying anyone is full of shite either for having shot any mechanical for as long as theyve been around and never having a problem. It's highly unlikely that ANY broadhead will ever fail, but it's certainly not impossible and it's pretty god damned asinine to think otherwise or to even argue the point. I shot a NAP Killzone last year and opened a deer up. It was very impressive. I have alot of faith in that broadhead. Alx just likes to push the issue with my posts for whatever reason.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:56 am to dnm3305
quote:What are you even talking about?
That dude just cant stay off my dick.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:56 am to AlxTgr
quote:
No one could possibly know if it did or not. Did you even watch it?
Yes. And I see two broken blades. Did you even watch it?
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:57 am to dnm3305
quote:Post better and this will not happen. BTW, I've had two broad head failures. Both fixed head. It had nothing to do with design. The metal failed. That can happen regardless of design.
Alx just likes to push the issue with my posts for whatever reason.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I'm already convinced on the Rages and how good they work and have never had any of them fail except last week when the shaft of the hypodermic broke on the exit side of the rib cage.
To date, I have never lost a deer with a rage (11 kills) and have lost a few deer with muzzy and montec broadheads. Now it could have been the shot placement. Although 2 bucks I lost (one with montec and one with muzzy), were both lung shots. May have been single lung shots (hard to tell), but I'm pretty convinced with the same shot I would have recovered it shooting the rages. Just my opinion though.
To date, I have never lost a deer with a rage (11 kills) and have lost a few deer with muzzy and montec broadheads. Now it could have been the shot placement. Although 2 bucks I lost (one with montec and one with muzzy), were both lung shots. May have been single lung shots (hard to tell), but I'm pretty convinced with the same shot I would have recovered it shooting the rages. Just my opinion though.
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:58 am to dnm3305
quote:Bull shite. There isn't even a shot of the head. Just a feeder.
Yes. And I see two broken blades. Did you even watch it?
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