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re: Rage Hypodermic Broadhead Reviews

Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:01 am to
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:01 am to
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Really?


Yes, really. You took a broad statement that I made when referring to the first few posts of this thread that reinforced the notion that mechanical broadheads are susceptible to failure, and just put "so false". Well, no. It's not false. Mechanical things fail, in all walks of life. My very livelihood rests on the fact that all things mechanical fail, eventually.

FAILURE

FAILURE

FAILURE
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:01 am to
And if you walk up to a wall enough times you will eventually pass through it.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13590 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:02 am to
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What bone?


The fwd most bone in the rib cage.

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The failure stories, which are pure myth, always come with the line, "My shot was perfect".


That is irrelevant. Are we discussing shot placement? No, we arent.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:11 am to
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Well to be fair, a mechanical head is more likely to have mechanical problems than a non-mechanical head. That isn't debatable.


Fascinating statement.. But,,my statement basically said that "all these variables" have never happened to ME,, since I started using/killing with them mannnnnny years ago, when they 1st came out. Plus, the fact remains,, there are lots on here that spout what they read or see on TV. Would you consider those to be fair statements? Please hurry,, I'm holding my breath!

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:18 am to
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FAILURE
Did you even watch this? Not only is it Rage, which you did not limit your idiotic statement o, the deer bled like frick and died. The head was never shown. The hunter doesn't even know if it failed.

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FAILURE
Again, Rage. No idea what you're really getting from that video.

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FAILURE
Did you watch this?

Are you ok?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:19 am to
quote:

What bone?


The fwd most bone in the rib cage.

A rib?

quote:

The failure stories, which are pure myth, always come with the line, "My shot was perfect".


That is irrelevant. Are we discussing shot placement? No, we arent.

No it's not. OTOH I'm starting to figure out that you really are incapable of thought, so there's that.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:26 am to
Stop it alx, dammit! It's serious bidness to post ewe tube videos!!

Although, it would be more credible if they watched and not just goggled titles.




Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13590 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:28 am to
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No it's not. OTOH I'm starting to figure out that you really are incapable of thought, so there's that.


Back to insults I see. You sure are mature. I really dont understand what your argument is. Youre stating that a mechanical head will never fail. Youre simply wrong.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13590 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:32 am to
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Did you watch this? Are you ok?


Are you saying the broadhead in that video did not fail?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13590 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:35 am to
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Well to be fair, a mechanical head is more likely to have mechanical problems than a non-mechanical head. That isn't debatable.


Of course its not debatable. But because I said it, it will be debated. That dude just cant stay off my dick.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:49 am to
Well I'm not going to tell you that you're full of shite about never having one fail. Just because they can doesn't mean they have to. I know people who have never had a problem with them and probably never will. It isn't hard to find someone who has had a problem with one though.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:54 am to
After further review and attempted replacement of blades on the NAP killzone blades, I will not be reusing, repairing or replacing them further.


The NAP killzone has a sliding bolt that binds the blades. As noted before the bolt is small diameter steel and has an exposed hex or screw head and nut. the small diameter and comparatively longer shaft bolt is more prone to bending due to impact. The exposed head and nut creates drag on the broadhead in flight and at penetration although likely minimal. It also increases the potential that the bolt comes un fastened. The sliding function of the steel bolt is dependent on a smooth groove for it to slide in. Since the body of the head is Aluminum, it is prone to nicks and dents from the bolt and blades causing it to be unsmooth and increasing potential for the blades to not open properly.









The Rage xtreme has a stationary screw that the blades slide/pivot around. The screw is stainless steel, allen wrench head and is counter sunk in the head so there is no part of it exposed. This IMO is a better design and has less moving parts and potential for improper deployment of the blades. (I really see no potential for mechanical failure other than possibly not hitting a target with sufficient resistance to impart enough force on the broadhead to open it.






This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 11:01 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:54 am to
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Back to insults I see.
Insults are underrated, but if you can't see the failure in your presentation then something is really wrong.

quote:

Youre stating that a mechanical head will never fail. Youre simply wrong.
I have a head that will never fail. fact.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:55 am to
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Did you watch this? Are you ok?


Are you saying the broadhead in that video did not fail?


No one could possibly know if it did or not. Did you even watch it?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13590 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:55 am to
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Well I'm not going to tell you that you're full of shite about never having one fail. Just because they can doesn't mean they have to. I know people who have never had a problem with them and probably never will


Absolutely. Im not saying anyone is full of shite either for having shot any mechanical for as long as theyve been around and never having a problem. It's highly unlikely that ANY broadhead will ever fail, but it's certainly not impossible and it's pretty god damned asinine to think otherwise or to even argue the point. I shot a NAP Killzone last year and opened a deer up. It was very impressive. I have alot of faith in that broadhead. Alx just likes to push the issue with my posts for whatever reason.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:56 am to
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That dude just cant stay off my dick.

What are you even talking about?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13590 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:56 am to
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No one could possibly know if it did or not. Did you even watch it?


Yes. And I see two broken blades. Did you even watch it?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:57 am to
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Alx just likes to push the issue with my posts for whatever reason.

Post better and this will not happen. BTW, I've had two broad head failures. Both fixed head. It had nothing to do with design. The metal failed. That can happen regardless of design.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:58 am to
I'm already convinced on the Rages and how good they work and have never had any of them fail except last week when the shaft of the hypodermic broke on the exit side of the rib cage.

To date, I have never lost a deer with a rage (11 kills) and have lost a few deer with muzzy and montec broadheads. Now it could have been the shot placement. Although 2 bucks I lost (one with montec and one with muzzy), were both lung shots. May have been single lung shots (hard to tell), but I'm pretty convinced with the same shot I would have recovered it shooting the rages. Just my opinion though.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:58 am to
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Yes. And I see two broken blades. Did you even watch it?


Bull shite. There isn't even a shot of the head. Just a feeder.
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