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re: property line surveys and info from courthouse.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:30 pm to CootKilla
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:30 pm to CootKilla
Gotcha
Just remember that before you press any issues with your neighbor have something more official than just you finding the corners but I know what you are doing and have been there before.
Good luck. Fighting over surveys, fence lines, right-of-ways, etc can be a nightmare with a PITA neighbor.
Just remember that before you press any issues with your neighbor have something more official than just you finding the corners but I know what you are doing and have been there before.
Good luck. Fighting over surveys, fence lines, right-of-ways, etc can be a nightmare with a PITA neighbor.
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:34 pm to stout
I already told her I was going to do it and we would go from there. She put up her fence and stopped it before the edge of property. I want to go all the way but on my side.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:37 pm to TigerDeacon
quote:
You want this because if you are off you want someone else to blame.
I can guarantee the paper, my fee was $150 a day and expenses,,,, but, that was 30 years ago.
Signed,
Ole G, O&G Landman
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:39 pm to Ole Geauxt
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Ole Geauxt
This sumbitch will be dead before any dispute gets to court. Don't have him sign anything.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:41 pm to Broke
Buzz erds always wake me up.. 
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:47 pm to CootKilla
3 inches? wow just wow. No survey or plat map can get that close. She doesn't have a clue and she can't do anything about it. Tell her to take it to court, she won't and she'll shut up about it.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:22 pm to CootKilla
quote:What you're really saying is that you and your friends work (or worked) as technicians (rodmen, instrumentmen, party chiefs) for licensed land surveyors at some point in time.
I have been surveying for 12 years. I just don't have the bearings and distances on my lot and easements. I have 3 land monuments within 200 feet of my yard. I also have 2 friends who used to be land surveyors. None of us have ever had to get the info from the court house
I've done this for a living for a few decades (I'm licensed in Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama & Florida). I'm just finishing up a six-year term on the state licensing board for engineers & land surveyors. So while I don't claim to be an authority, I do have a little bit of experience.
I'd be a bit leery of getting into a dispute with a neighbor just because you have an instrument and know where a couple of monuments happen to be. There's a lot more involved in deciding which monuments are actually marking property corners, and determining the boundaries of the property to which you have title.
The parish Clerk of Court is where you go to get a copy of your deed. I'd be very surprised if they are not helpful -- the Clerk of Court holds an elective office, so his staff should be oriented toward assisting the public (voters).
Once you get a copy of your deed and the subdivision plat, I'd sit down with a good local surveyor (yes, unfortunately, there are good ones and bad ones), and discuss how he would go about determining the location of the property that's in question -- and what it would cost.
You don't want to get in an expensive legal squabble over 2-3 inches of property. But people do this all the time (fight over property lines). But before you decide to go down such a road, (a) figure out what your lot is worth, and (b) calculate the value of a 3" strip.
For example 3" wide strip x 200 feet long property line = .00115 acres. If your land is worth $5,000 per acre, that strip is worth about $5.75 Getting into an expensive fight over $5.75 might be satisfying on some level, but nobody is really gonna win in a deal like that -- except the lawyers, and maybe the surveyors.
I'd be happy to try to assist you in sorting it out, but I'm in BR. If you get more info, send me an email (guntraining@att.net) and I'll do what I can from "long distance."
Just my $.02 worth.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:40 pm to dawg23
Thanks for the info. She put up her fence without a property line. She ran a string line from the telephone pole to where she thought the property line is and put up a fence. At first she said she put it on the line. Now she is saying she put it 3 inches off. I put down a bulkhead to where hers stopped. For some reason she stopped the fence before the bulkhead. I want to continue it all the way. She doesn't want me to continue it on her property. It will look like shite but I will put it on my side. Just want to get a good idea of the line. I won't make a big deal out of it either way.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:42 pm to dawg23
Dawg since you are obviously knowledgable on this sort of stuff I have a question of my own relative to this sort of problem.
My home is the first home on one street of our subdivision. I have a neighbor on one side and a common area strip of about 6 ft dividing my property from our neighborhood pool parking lot.
Years ago the HOA put up a line of trees to provide a barrier between my property and the parking lot. They planted the trees, leyland cypresses, just inside of the common area strip. This was approx. 12-14 yrs ago.
Currently the trees have grown to over 50 ft high or more and the root systems have worked their way under my foundation (slab), as well as the trees themselves grown to past the edges of my side roofline.Additionally they have overtaken probably a 5 ft wide strip of bermuda through sucking the ground dry and excessive shading of the grass in those areas.
Whats the play here?
Get the plat and have it surveyed to prove it, or is the original plat that came with my paperwork at signing enough to prove whats happened.
Get lawyers involved or attempt to have the HOA mgmt company try to remedy it first?
My home is the first home on one street of our subdivision. I have a neighbor on one side and a common area strip of about 6 ft dividing my property from our neighborhood pool parking lot.
Years ago the HOA put up a line of trees to provide a barrier between my property and the parking lot. They planted the trees, leyland cypresses, just inside of the common area strip. This was approx. 12-14 yrs ago.
Currently the trees have grown to over 50 ft high or more and the root systems have worked their way under my foundation (slab), as well as the trees themselves grown to past the edges of my side roofline.Additionally they have overtaken probably a 5 ft wide strip of bermuda through sucking the ground dry and excessive shading of the grass in those areas.
Whats the play here?
Get the plat and have it surveyed to prove it, or is the original plat that came with my paperwork at signing enough to prove whats happened.
Get lawyers involved or attempt to have the HOA mgmt company try to remedy it first?
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:43 pm to CootKilla
I suggest spending the $500 and getting a stamped survey.
Then you are certain you know where the line is and you can tell her no.
Then you are certain you know where the line is and you can tell her no.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:47 pm to CootKilla
Easy:
1. Install stakes for a fence CLEARLY on your neighbor's property.
2. Neighbor calls surveyor.
3. Open cold beverage, pull up a chair and watch surveyor survey in property line at neighbor's expense.
I actually read that in a civil engineering journal.
ETA: Wholly shite, I guess I should have read the whole thread first. Looks like your neighbor read the same journal I did.
1. Install stakes for a fence CLEARLY on your neighbor's property.
2. Neighbor calls surveyor.
3. Open cold beverage, pull up a chair and watch surveyor survey in property line at neighbor's expense.
I actually read that in a civil engineering journal.
ETA: Wholly shite, I guess I should have read the whole thread first. Looks like your neighbor read the same journal I did.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:51 pm to eng08
Here is a pic along the fenceline. The left is my property. There is a 10 foot 2x12 in the ground running even with the fence. She is saying her property runs straight with the fence not the end of her bulkhead. Her ex husband put up the bulkhead approximately 15 years ago.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:53 pm to CootKilla
Another question. In which direction do you put your posts, inside or outside your property?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:54 pm to CootKilla
houma?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:57 pm to Ole Geauxt
Nah, God's country, Raceland.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:00 pm to CootKilla
Raceland, huh? Man, idda never figured it to be so far away from the sugar bowl hotel.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:09 pm to CootKilla
Just hire a surveyor to do it correctly.
Try bayou country surveying out of Thibodeaux - very good and very professional. Small operation as well. Or try T Baker Smith.
You can put the fence on the line and actually force the other landowner to pay for half as well, but that would require court.
You can also tear that shite down once you know it's on your property or go to court and force them to tear it down.
Again as dawg above says you got to justify the costs to the results. What's it worth to you?
Personally i would get the survey and have a chat once I have it done. Where I go next depends on what surveyor and neighbor ays.
And I know how to survey and have done several of them, but that doesn't mean I want to do it in a situation involving property lines.
Try bayou country surveying out of Thibodeaux - very good and very professional. Small operation as well. Or try T Baker Smith.
You can put the fence on the line and actually force the other landowner to pay for half as well, but that would require court.
You can also tear that shite down once you know it's on your property or go to court and force them to tear it down.
Again as dawg above says you got to justify the costs to the results. What's it worth to you?
Personally i would get the survey and have a chat once I have it done. Where I go next depends on what surveyor and neighbor ays.
And I know how to survey and have done several of them, but that doesn't mean I want to do it in a situation involving property lines.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:15 pm to eng08
T. Baker Smith = good, conscientious surveyors. Ask for John Mattingly.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:22 pm to AUTimbo
quote:Wow -- not good. If the roots have damaged your slab, I'd consult with a forester/landscape architect to document the "invasion" location of the root system and consult with a structural engineer//builder to determine the extent of the damage and cost to repair it. I'd want this info in-hand before talking to the HOA.
Dawg since you are obviously knowledgable on this sort of stuff I have a question of my own relative to this sort of problem.
My home is the first home on one street of our subdivision. I have a neighbor on one side and a common area strip of about 6 ft dividing my property from our neighborhood pool parking lot.
Years ago the HOA put up a line of trees to provide a barrier between my property and the parking lot. They planted the trees, leyland cypresses, just inside of the common area strip. This was approx. 12-14 yrs ago.
Currently the trees have grown to over 50 ft high or more and the root systems have worked their way under my foundation (slab), as well as the trees themselves grown to past the edges of my side roofline. Additionally they have overtaken probably a 5 ft wide strip of bermuda through sucking the ground dry and excessive shading of the grass in those areas.
Whats the play here?
Get the plat and have it surveyed to prove it, or is the original plat that came with my paperwork at signing enough to prove whats happened.
Get lawyers involved or attempt to have the HOA mgmt company try to remedy it first?
The plat you received at signing will tell you where your property line is. But only a new survey will show where the trees//roots//drip lines are located relative to your property line.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:34 pm to Ole Geauxt
You know any company men named Zeringue in your line of work? I believe he lives in Abbeville.
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