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re: Pistol for a young lady
Posted on 12/1/15 at 2:59 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 12/1/15 at 2:59 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:00 pm to Chad504boy
I have a S&W .38 Airweight and hate it. The trigger pull is so much you are off target before the gun goes off.
Remember small caliber and personal protection is a conflict in terms, you can have either one but not both.
Remember small caliber and personal protection is a conflict in terms, you can have either one but not both.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:34 pm to 07Tiger
Sig P290RS is my wife's flavor.
Pocket sized with a 6 + 1 round capacity and barely over 1" wide. about 20 oz so heavy enough to break up some of the recoil without being a burden to carry. It has a long, heavy trigger for a young lady, but it forced the wife and I to practice more and I don't really like external safeties, so I'm OK with a heavy trigger. Now that she's used to it, she appreciates the extra peace of mind it brings while she carries.
You can get a special laser attachment for it too, similar to the bodyguard but its not integrated into the frame.
Pocket sized with a 6 + 1 round capacity and barely over 1" wide. about 20 oz so heavy enough to break up some of the recoil without being a burden to carry. It has a long, heavy trigger for a young lady, but it forced the wife and I to practice more and I don't really like external safeties, so I'm OK with a heavy trigger. Now that she's used to it, she appreciates the extra peace of mind it brings while she carries.
You can get a special laser attachment for it too, similar to the bodyguard but its not integrated into the frame.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 7:49 pm to 07Tiger
Sounds like she needs a strapping young man to protect her. Hook a young white God fearing feller up pops.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 7:52 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Well said.
Although I'm a Sig guy - few persons would be underserved, in any capacity a pistol may serve, by a Glock 19.
It isn't pretty or glamorous. It's the basic hammer or screwdriver of pistols. It will seem more like a full sized pistol to small framed folks and there's nothing wrong with that. It is "concealable" with proper holster and clothing. Young women have unique challenges in carrying concealed, but they can be overcome.
At the end of the day, you need to start with a single pistol and shoot the daylights out of that. That muscle memory can be translated to other platforms - the closer to that base skill set the better.
If you just don't like Glock for whatever reason, try the M&P or the Sig 320. If you don't like polymer? Try Sig classic pistols (ow, my wallet) or maybe even Beretta ( - different strokes, though).
But, the knee jerk reaction to putting a novice, small, female shooter into a .380 pocket gun or J-frame equivalent revolver is just terrible, terrible advice, generally. Those are specialty weapons for special situations. The .380 is largely obsolete (as are most revolvers for non-hunting purposes) - while obsolete doesn't mean ineffective, it certainly suggests we should go somewhere else. Outside of a rare case like a Walther PPK (which is a heavy, all metal example of the type), the .380s and 5-shot .38 Specials, regardless of alloy/weight, etc. are unpleasant to shoot and difficult to shoot well - a double whammy because relying on the weapon for your defense demands competency with it. No person is going to voluntarily put thousands of rounds through most .380 pocket autos or 5-shot .38s (Again, the Walther PPK and Ruger SP101 might be exceptions, but those are large for type, heavier for type guns from a better, vanished time.)
So what will work? In today's market roughly a Glock 19/Sig P229 (or equivalent) and adjusting from there, based on preferences with ergonomics, fire control system, etc.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 7:57 pm to rodnreel
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Remember small caliber and personal protection is a conflict in terms, you can have either one but not both.
BS. 9mm loadings today are more than adequate for personal protection, and can be had in some very small handguns.
LC
Posted on 12/1/15 at 8:10 pm to LongueCarabine
Charter arms pink lady isn't a bad little revolver. No safety or slide so jamming or ftf won't be a problem. Comes in .38 and .32 h&r magnum.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 8:15 pm to 07Tiger
Smith & Wesson air weight in 38 caliber. Hammer less so does not get hung up in purse, safe because it is a revolver and light in the purse or pocket.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 6:20 pm to 07Tiger
A reasonable alternative might be to look at some of the Com-Bloc surplus options in 9 mak.
Get a CZ 82, it's reasonably sized, gives you a 12 rd mag. Very accurate and comfortable, and sized proportionally well (for a 5'2" 100 lb girl, it's similar to what a Beretta 92 would be for a 6'4" 230 lb guy). Steel frame means it isn't so light that it will buck much, even to someone not used to shooting. Excellent for range, in a car, or on the nightstand.
For smaller, look at the Polish P64, 6 rds of the same ammo in a size a guy could slip in his front pocket (about the same as a PPK). Not as fun to shoot as the CZ, but points well. Followup shots are easy as hell.
Don't laugh at surplus; these were military issued, the quality and reliability is there as far as function. For the price of 1 Sig, you could probably get both of these.
Ammo- get the cheap stuff online. These guns are made to cycle steel casings, and I've shot a ton out of my collection, never had any problem.
Get a CZ 82, it's reasonably sized, gives you a 12 rd mag. Very accurate and comfortable, and sized proportionally well (for a 5'2" 100 lb girl, it's similar to what a Beretta 92 would be for a 6'4" 230 lb guy). Steel frame means it isn't so light that it will buck much, even to someone not used to shooting. Excellent for range, in a car, or on the nightstand.
For smaller, look at the Polish P64, 6 rds of the same ammo in a size a guy could slip in his front pocket (about the same as a PPK). Not as fun to shoot as the CZ, but points well. Followup shots are easy as hell.
Don't laugh at surplus; these were military issued, the quality and reliability is there as far as function. For the price of 1 Sig, you could probably get both of these.
Ammo- get the cheap stuff online. These guns are made to cycle steel casings, and I've shot a ton out of my collection, never had any problem.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:29 pm to Manatee
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Smith & Wesson air weight in 38 caliber. Hammer less so does not get hung up in purse, safe because it is a revolver and light in the purse or pocket.
I must agree with ace midnight on this one. I own and carry a SW .38 airweight, and I would never ask my wife to carry it unless she was an absolute, stone cold tack driver. The combination of trigger, it's short barrel, crappy sights, and low mass makes this little guy a bitch to shoot accurately. I would only recommend it for a seasoned shooter.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:29 pm to Scoob
My wife carries a Lady Smith .38 +P. 5 shot, hammerless fairly well weighted and she really likes to shoot it. My main concern when looking at semi-auto handguns was cleanliness. I figured she would pack it around in her damn purse or in console of jeep and wouldn't keep it clean. Revolver solves most of that as far as dependability and I only have to clean it good a couple times a year.
Lady Smith
Lady Smith
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:53 pm to 07Tiger
A wheel gun, if she's not used to shooting much. Pull the trigger and it goes bang. Semi-autos can be confusing for some.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:35 am to Manatee
quote:It takes a manly wife to master one of these abominations.
Smith & Wesson air weight in 38 caliber. Hammer less so does not get hung up in purse, safe because it is a revolver and light in the purse or pocket.
12-13+ lb. trigger pull, and stout recoil (due to the light weight of the gun), and limited capacity, and a crappy rear sight, make this a pretty lousy choice for anyone as a primary SD weapon. (It would make a decent BUG, but there are far better choices in 9mm -- such as the Shield, the G43 and the Kahr PM9/P9.)
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:25 am to 07Tiger
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