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Pickuptrucks.com 3/4 ton and 1 ton challenges released
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:59 am to jordan21210
Uh oh. OB won't like those results. 
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:01 am to jordan21210
There seems to be an gap in the engine lineup of these manufacturers. Why not offer a smaller diesel engine in the neighborhood of 500 lb ft of torque for those that want a deisel alternative to the gasoline options but don't need to regularly tow 10+ tons? Why not have two diesel engines to choose from instead of just one?
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:05 am to member12
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Why not have two diesel engines to choose from instead of just one?
It probably has something to do with CAFE standards and emissions profiles.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:08 am to jordan21210
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Yes, the Ford F-250 did come out on top during our 16-event empirical portion, but fell a healthy distance short of the competition (we can't help but wonder what would have happened with 4.30:1 gears) in ride quality and overall interior design and quality.
Grain of salt.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:40 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Think the age of the F series platform cost it...reviewers knocked the ride and interior in both comparisons.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:42 pm to jordan21210
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Ford sent the 2015 F-250 6.2-liter; GM sent the Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD 6.0-liter; and Ram sent the 2500 6.4-liter Hemi.
Hmmm...
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:00 pm to jordan21210
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Think the age of the F series platform cost it
This surprises me a bit. Man, my truck is really quiet at highway speeds. I think it rides really well for being a 4X4 with FX4.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:29 pm to VetteGuy
Summary "Ford won all of the objective tests, so we made them the loser of the subjective ones."
Gas engine HD trucks.
Gas engine HD trucks.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:39 pm to tes fou
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Gas engine HD trucks.
Should honestly be the preference now that diesels are becoming increasingly unreliable. Nothing wrong with a gas 3/4 ton.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:13 pm to jordan21210
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Should honestly be the preference now that diesels are becoming increasingly unreliable
They are all definately getting more complex and more costly.....but only some are becoming more unreliable.
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Nothing wrong with a gas 3/4 ton.
I agree. A good, sturdy gasoline engine goes a long way for 90% of HD truck buyers.
I still wish that manufacturers would provide a smaller diesel with similar output to ther entry level V8 engines for their HD trucks. I think the first one that does will see a lot of interest.
Smaller diesels are out there. Ram has a 3.0L V6 in their half tons that appears to be very competitive. VW and GM both have diesel compact cars. GM is introducing the new 2.8L Duramax for their mid sized trucks (and possibly their half tons) next year. There's rumors about GM bringing the 4.5L design to production soon, and the Nissan Titan may be getting a Cummins product with a similar displacement pretty soon.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:14 pm to tes fou
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Gas engine HD trucks.
First think I was thinking.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:14 pm to member12
only problem i've had with my diesel f250 is their stupid mother effer exhaust sensor. Had one go out on me this morning bringing kids to school.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 4:36 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
So the judges cared more about how the trucks performed at the Mall? These tests always turn up odd discrepancies. The F-250 destroyed the Ram on the 7.2 mile Eisenhower Pass yet the Ram had the best top speed with no explanation in the paragraphs on that part of the testing. Doesn't seem to jive with the 1/4-mile testing if you look at the trap speeds and the tow-haul mode should have been kept on for all passes loaded and unloaded.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 4:45 pm to tes fou
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Gas engine HD trucks
Will probably be seen a lo more with the increased cost of Diesel engines, and the new exhaust urea crap.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:20 pm to ZacAttack
The fuel economy is just so poor.
Maybe 15 on the highway...
Maybe 15 on the highway...
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:33 pm to VetteGuy
In that challenges the diesels got 16 mpg empty and 7 towing. By the time you figure in the approximately 8 grand for a diesel, it would seem to me that it would take a long time to recoup in costs in has vs diesel, but I'm no expert.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:43 pm to ZacAttack
I agree with you about the cost deal, but my truck gets an easy 18 on the highway empty. Towing depends on the weight. Even in town it gets pretty good.
That gas burner might get 15 on it's very best day and it's really gonna suffer in town.
No doubt, you can buy a lot of gas for $8K, but you'll be stopping. A lot.
That gas burner might get 15 on it's very best day and it's really gonna suffer in town.
No doubt, you can buy a lot of gas for $8K, but you'll be stopping. A lot.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:34 pm to VetteGuy
You can also tune a diesel for a little better bump in MPG's than you can a gas mill. Advantages of not having a throttle body and a generally more precise fueling strategy. Those that lose the most are those that don't keep their diesel around long enough and keep trading up to the newest fancy model. I've seen plenty with 200,000+ miles on the bottom end that looked absolutely spotless.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:19 pm to Clames
I'm too scared to do anything until it's out of warranty.
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