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Per the LSU Ag Center my pond has a pH of 4.53

Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:48 am
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:48 am
Acid rain is about a 4.

What the otters didn't get the pH did.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:01 am to
Wow,

How much lime is needed to get that pH higher?
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:09 am to
quote:

How much lime is needed to get that pH higher?


No idea yet. Just got the report today. Left a message for the agent.

We've had this issue before with possible ground water but that was decades ago.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13880 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:25 am to
After falling in your pond:
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:27 am to
Just about.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
635 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:13 pm to
I believe I'd get another test just to verify that.

If it comes back 4.5 too, then holy shite.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:13 pm to
I bought a test kit myself and the pH wouldn't even show on the strips. The test strips weren't expired but I thought they might be old. We have a friend that works environmental at a nuclear plant in South Carolina and when she was in town she tested the water herself and got the same result.

I took a sample to LSU when I was in Baton Rouge last week and I just got the results back today. I plan on taking another sample and getting it tested again.

When my grandparents built the pond about 35 years ago they had sold dirt for a couple of nearby bridges. The construction company turned in the pit into a pond. At that time they had cattle so the pond slopes in gradually at one end but is about 20' deep at the levee. During the construction they hit a underground spring and we kept having water seep up. We do have another spring nearby that comes up out of the group that has been used as a water source for people in years past.

When we first stocked it we kept having catfish dying and we couldn't figure out why. The wildlife had us bring in a fish for testing and when they tested the water they freaked out about the pH then too. Their assumption is that it was from the spring water.

After a year or two the fish stopped dying and we had decades of great fishing. Now the pond has turned crystal clear. The sample I took looked like bottled water it was so clear.

I'm wondering if the drought last year threw off the balance of the pond.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23926 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:42 pm to
What time of day? pH changes in a pond as algae photosynthesizes.

quote:

I took a sample to LSU when I was in Baton Rouge last week and I just got the results back today. I plan on taking another sample and getting it tested again.


Also, water chemistry changes as it sits in a test bottle. Anything tested over 15 mins from collection isn't considered valid.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:49 pm to
Dump a big load or two of limestone riprap rocks in the pond?
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

What time of day? pH changes in a pond as algae photosynthesizes.


quote:


Also, water chemistry changes as it sits in a test bottle. Anything tested over 15 mins from collection isn't considered valid.


I get all that but my live testing was in line with what LSU got. I just didn't believe the pH would be that low.


Every item they tested for was categorized as "low" or "very low" except for Potassium which was "medium"
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23926 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I just didn't believe the pH would be that low.


How much rain have you gotten recently? Dead or decaying leaves in the pond? Both can lower the pH.

Try taking a reading in the middle of the afternoon on a sunny day and see what you get. They should be the highest at that point of the day. The lowest pH will be first thing in the AM.

Also try testing different depths and at different locations in the pond. I'd specifically take one right where the spring enters the pond. Based on what you've posted, I'd bet the spring runs over a mineral deposit that leads to the low pH.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1013 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:03 am to
The problem of fish kill is due to low oxygen not PH IMO.
Underground springs have zero oxygen.
Get a couple of aeration systems for the pond. Problem solved.
In the 20 foot area you will have 17 feet of dead water ( no oxygen) at certain times. An aerator will keep the whole water column aerated all the time.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 9:08 am
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:20 am to
As a reply to everyone:

I understand that certain things (i.e. rain, vegetation, decay, time) will effect pH, but it shouldn't affect it to that extent.

The spring (if it has reopened) is under the water, not flowing above ground into the pond.

Yes, other items can be a factor, such as oxygen levels, which can also be affected by pH. Again, I will be testing the water again as will the Ag center.

Where I see the effect is with the catfish. We still have bass and bream.

I talked to the local Ag agent and he said we will probably need to lime the pond then wait a few months to fertilize it. I can't stress enough how clear the water is. It looks like a mountain stream or lake. We are going to have to build up the natural algae
Posted by auggie
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:40 am to
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This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 9:45 am
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:44 am to
Posted by BigHoss
Offshore
Member since Apr 2010
3353 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 4:28 am to
Low and high pH will definitely have toxicity to plants and animals.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27392 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 6:26 am to
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Dump a big load or two


For a few seconds i thought we were on the OT
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