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Posted on 12/2/16 at 6:05 pm to Barf
quote:So they take zero account for weather, disease, car accidents. Hunters, that's the only thing that kills these animals. Got it.
If you think this, you have absolutely zero clue how those tag system operate. You have stepped out of your box stand on this subject.
quote:I did not say zero impact, I said it would be exponentially better than those people running boats scouting.
You think putting a drone in the sky to spot ducks on a pond miles away would have no negative impact on duck numbers? Ducks that would have not been shot are now being pressured
I'm not saying that they should be used for a tool in hunting, especially on public areas but they are a tool that can be less invasive than current methods for scouting the land. If you disagree with that statement I'm convinced you just want to argue.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 6:46 pm to Citica8
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So they take zero account for weather, disease, car accidents. Hunters, that's the only thing that kills these animals. Got it.
I'm not sure how to explain the tag system to you because It seems like you're either not interested in the how or why but only interested in whatever idea you have in your head. The short answer is fish and game anticipates and issues tags based on harvest numbers. They will not issue 20 tags for 20 animals. It be more like 60, 80,or 100 tags depending on success rate. You can sell more tags than animals you can harvest if you have a low success rate. It's a valuable tool for getting money into the system.
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I'm not saying that they should be used for a tool in hunting, especially on public areas but they are a tool that can be less invasive than current methods for scouting the land. If you disagree with that statement I'm convinced you just want to argue.
I'm assuming you're speaking of off season scouting, if not I'm not sure I understand your stance.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:46 pm to Barf
I understand how the tag system works. I understand your points, but you speak in absolutes, game commissions can vary how many tags are given based on any number of things, not just success rates.
Wouldn't it be nice to know what this duck blind you just built looked like to a teal on a fly over, or what about getting a clearer photo of your property than a fuzzy satellite image taken 7 years ago on the deer lease, or in the winter with no leaves on the trees, versus spring and green. We wanted to bring it to get some cool video to share with people who aren't sure what goes into a pheasant hunt, which currently is not illegal.
The name of this discussion was "Outdoor Drone Uses" but you turned this into "ban these spawn of Satan, nothing beneficial can come out of this". Have a drink baw, you need it.
quote:Yes, it's clear to everyone on this board you are openminded to discussion.
It seems like you're either not interested in the how or why but only interested in whatever idea you have in your head.
quote:It can be used in a number of ways. I'm not talking about pin pointing one particular elk you found with a drone and stalk him, or pushing ducks to you with a drone, or staying in a truck and seeing if the deer are out then walking to them.
I'm assuming you're speaking of off season scouting, if not I'm not sure I understand your stance.
Wouldn't it be nice to know what this duck blind you just built looked like to a teal on a fly over, or what about getting a clearer photo of your property than a fuzzy satellite image taken 7 years ago on the deer lease, or in the winter with no leaves on the trees, versus spring and green. We wanted to bring it to get some cool video to share with people who aren't sure what goes into a pheasant hunt, which currently is not illegal.
The name of this discussion was "Outdoor Drone Uses" but you turned this into "ban these spawn of Satan, nothing beneficial can come out of this". Have a drink baw, you need it.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:51 pm to Citica8
Since it's a drone thread
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:16 pm to Citica8
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Wouldn't it be nice to know what this duck blind you just built looked like to a teal on a fly over
I would have to go with a firm no if I'm being asked my stance on drones for this use.
This reminds me of similar arguments I've read when the gill net and spotter plane ban ideas were being floated.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:32 pm to Dam Guide
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Dam Guide
You have the manic already??? Mines on order with 6 week lead time. How do you like it. Flying the phantom 3 advance right now.
O and I scout reds with it. Scout duck holes out of a bay boat with it. It doesn't scare anything because I fly 500 + fly up. And there's no rooting up Marsh. It's a win win for me. Live Google earth if you will.
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This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:54 pm to Dam Guide
That's just a stupid thing to think. In Canada and Alaska I can't hunt same day I fly in. And a drone is easily within definition of "marshaling" waterfowl. You are an idiot, plain and simple
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:38 pm to fillmoregandt
I have always thought of this. Just need a drone now. Feels like cheating against a wise ol tom though 
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:11 am to TheCurmudgeon
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That's just a stupid thing to think. In Canada and Alaska I can't hunt same day I fly in. And a drone is easily within definition of "marshaling" waterfowl. You are an idiot, plain and simple
Not only can you not hunt on the same day you fly, you can not use a helicopter at all for any reason related to hunting.
One thing you have to keep in mind is a lot of people around here would like to blur the line between hunting and fishing, and killing and catching.
Of course flying a drone over the marsh is less impactful than burning ponds with a tunnel or surface drive, but that's not the point. Putting a drone in the sky to spot schools of redfish or ponds with ducks takes something away from the spirit of fair chase. It's very near sighted of those who are opposed to the banning of drones for all things hunting and fishing related. Every year we have more people in the marsh, we don't need to be making it easier.
What makes this very strange is you would get shite on if you posted a crossbow kill. It's little more than mental masturbation.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:23 am to Barf
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Putting a drone in the sky to spot schools of redfish or ponds with ducks takes something away from the spirit of fair chase.
I rarely agree with you but this is spot on for me. I have a buddy that will take me bow hunting (I don't have a bow) but I'd have to use his crossbow. I want to take up bowhunting but I want the challenge of all that comes with a traditional bow. To me part of the fun in hunting and fishing is being challenged to succeed. I love hunting duck in freezing temps and having to work for them. Would I like to kill more? Sure but not at the expense of taking the learning of how to do it away. I know not all feel the same way.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:38 pm to JamalSanders
quote:How was the Part 107 exam?
I fly a Phantom 4 everyday for work
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:03 pm to Barf
quote:So two weeks before the first split, someone builds a blind on a lease and they then fly a drone to see how visible their newly constructed and brushed blind is from a flyover at 75 foot in the air, and that's a firm no?
I would have to go with a firm no if I'm being asked my stance on drones for this use.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:19 pm to Citica8
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So two weeks before the first split, someone builds a blind on a lease and they then fly a drone to see how visible their newly constructed and brushed blind is from a flyover at 75 foot in the air, and that's a firm no?
Only on a personal level. Legally extending legislation that specific would be kind of silly and perhaps overreaching.
I'm not trying to be nitpicky but for me it's just an unnecessary advantage. Got to draw the line somewhere.
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