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re: Outdoor drone uses
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:05 pm to Barf
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:05 pm to Barf
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Fish and game can regulate the use of drones as it pertains to hunting and/or scouting for game. It's already been banned in a lot of places. I don't know why I'm surprised people here would advocate for such a thing.
They cannot regulate flying aircraft, they do not have that power. That power is fully in the hands of the FAA. You could fight and win it as the FAA has no laws in effect for hunting.
It would be like them regulating your use of a car to drive to different areas to hunt.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:07 pm
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:06 pm to Dam Guide
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They cannot regulate flying aircraft, they do not have that power. That power is fully in the hands of the FAA. You could fight and win it as the FAA has no laws in effect for hunting.
The frick?
Dude, you can not even fly and hunt on the same day in Alaska. You can not use a helicopter for any kind of hunting, scouting, transportation of gear, or any other hunting relating activity. They absolutely can put restrictions on use of drones.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:10 pm to Barf
I don't know why you continue to comeback to this board if you get so angst at every discussion that pops up.
You're clearly a sky is falling, find the worst in everything possible situation type of person.
First, they don't give out more tags than are sustainable through harvest. Second, you think an elk is going to stay still while you fly a drone around it and back to you? No. Finally, this would be 10,000x better and less destructive than T-Willy and his 9 first cousins in thier surface drives running through ponds and pockets looking for where the ducks are rafted up.
You're clearly a sky is falling, find the worst in everything possible situation type of person.
First, they don't give out more tags than are sustainable through harvest. Second, you think an elk is going to stay still while you fly a drone around it and back to you? No. Finally, this would be 10,000x better and less destructive than T-Willy and his 9 first cousins in thier surface drives running through ponds and pockets looking for where the ducks are rafted up.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:13 pm to Barf
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The frick? Dude, you can not even fly and hunt on the same day in Alaska. You can not use a helicopter for any kind of hunting, scouting, transportation of gear, or any other hunting relating activity. They absolutely can put restrictions on use of drones.
Did not know that, what are the punishments for it for a pilot? I'm guessing they just regulate the hunt and cannot do anything about the flights themselves since they cannot regulate air travel.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:13 pm to Dam Guide
Painfully, I'm with barf. Only on the legal aspect
Your analogy of a car isn't right. It would be like them regulating your ability to take game from a vehicle, which they already do.
However, I think the burden of proof to show you were using a drone to push birds may be a little difficult
Your analogy of a car isn't right. It would be like them regulating your ability to take game from a vehicle, which they already do.
However, I think the burden of proof to show you were using a drone to push birds may be a little difficult
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:14 pm to CP3
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Painfully, I'm with barf
That has to hurt...
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:15 pm to CP3
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Your analogy of a car isn't right. It would be like them regulating your ability to take game from a vehicle, which they already do.
Use of weapons through vehicles and aircraft are illegal beyond green jeans though. That is heavily regulated on pretty much every level.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:18 pm to Citica8
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First, they don't give out more tags than are sustainable through harvest.
If you think this, you have absolutely zero clue how those tag system operate. You have stepped out of your box stand on this subject.
Hypothetical example. If you could sustain a harvest of 100 animals, with a 10% hunter success rate, you could sell 1000 tags. You wouldn't sell only 100 tags, because with the hunter success rate you would only get 10 of those animals and on top of that you miss out on the revenue from the tag system.
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No. Finally, this would be 10,000x better and less destructive than T-Willy and his 9 first cousins in thier surface drives running through ponds and pockets looking for where the ducks are rafted up
You think putting a drone in the sky to spot ducks on a pond miles away would have no negative impact on duck numbers? Ducks that would have not been shot are now being pressured. Not to mention you would have to be on drugs if you thought for a second there are not efforts to curb people burning ponds with surface drives. They have already been banned in some places for frickssake.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:18 pm to Dam Guide
Yeah, but they still hit you with an illegal taking of game charge, which is WLF regulated
Taking game with the ASSISTANCE of vehicles is still prohibited as well
Taking game with the ASSISTANCE of vehicles is still prohibited as well
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:29 pm to CP3
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Yeah, but they still hit you with an illegal taking of game charge, which is WLF regulated Taking game with the ASSISTANCE of vehicles is still prohibited as well
Thanks, this supremacy stuff gets confusing. The FAA really needs to get off their arse and get this shite straight. It's confusing as frick to try to fly these things legally.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:31 pm to Dam Guide
I don't think you're understanding
It has nothing to do with you flying it. It has everything to do with your purpose/intentions of flying it to manipulate the taking of game.
It has nothing to do with you flying it. It has everything to do with your purpose/intentions of flying it to manipulate the taking of game.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:20 pm to CP3
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I don't think you're understanding It has nothing to do with you flying it. It has everything to do with your purpose/intentions of flying it to manipulate the taking of game.
Understood a few posts ago, wasn't thinking from that angle. Was more just aggravated with the FAA in the last post that really has nothing to do with hunting.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:33 pm to AUTimbo
They are noisy and only have a range of around 1/3 mile.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:44 pm to JamalSanders
My phantom has a 3mile range 
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:48 pm to CP3
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My phantom has a 3mile range
Try getting it to go that far. I fly a Phantom 4 everyday for work and can really only go half a mile with it.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:49 pm to Barf
Barf.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:52 pm to JamalSanders
I've been over a mile and a half.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:54 pm to JamalSanders
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Try getting it to go that far. I fly a Phantom 4 everyday for work and can really only go half a mile with it.
Maybe I'm crazy but wouldn't a three mile range mean 1.5 miles in one direction?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:58 pm to Barf
There are several YouTube videos of people taking them 3 miles out, one way. Total of 6miles round trip.
With antenna and battery mods, you can stretch that out a little further too.
With antenna and battery mods, you can stretch that out a little further too.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:19 pm to Barf
no it would not.
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