New Benelli and Browning waterfowl guns at SHOT.

Good god that browning is disgusting and I was raised on browning. The older I get the more I despise camoflauge guns.

Super Black Ethos

Lawd that Maxus is ugly as shite

Facebook says 1/16/17.

No clue if that means when they will be on shelves or just when the marketing fodder will be in full force.

Any info on new features of the SBE3?

Browning copied my SBEII with that design

Did this over 4 years ago

Makes me feel old that my sbe has been in the safe for so long. No one in my family does any bird hunting.

Had that thing for 15 years now and its probably got 400 rounds through it. All the first year I had. Had a few here and there, but nothing worth noting.

Bolt still looks brand new.

Beretta A350 is easy on the shoulder, can fire a 3.5" shell and is only $1k

Syren-made by same group that owns Fabarm and Caesar Guerini

I looked at a couple of these for my wife but I can't decide if it is a marketing gimmick. You could probably buy a nice 20gauge B gun and have it custom fitted or have a knowledgeable shooting instructor fit the gun to your wife/daughter using the basic shim kits Beretta and Bennelli offer with most of their guns for less then you will spend on these Syrens.

Fabarms is putting out a nice waterfowl gun and Caesar Guerini is great so if they do fit a women shooter off the rack with no adjustments necessary they could be a really nice option. Just realize you will be paying a premium just because it is labeled as a "women's" model.

Just saw you don't want to spend as much as a SBEII so the Syren line would probably not be what you are looking for. If you want easy on the shoulder have them try a couple of different 20gauge Beretta's with the Kickoff. Try to find a couple different barrel lengths in stock locally so they can handle them and compare which fits the best. Maybe even skip the kickoff because it does add length of draw and a 20g gas gun will have minimal recoil anyway. This option will probably be close in price to what you paid for the SBEII (give or take a couple bills, depending on options) but you have mentioned before how much your daughter enjoys shooting. Going this route will be setting her up with a great multi-purpose gun that could easily be handed down to future grandkids one day (hers not yours.).