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re: NatGeo's Big Fish Texas-Openly fighting against recreational Red Snapper
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:23 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:23 am to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:I agree with both of you
I don't get too worked up over most things, but this is one issue that strikes a nerve with me. Everyone involved in this decision making process is pissing down recreational's back and telling us it's raining. Our resident notre dame fan is a great example of how ignorance and apathy has allowed that to happen.
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Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:27 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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resident Navy fan
FIFY
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:29 am to gaetti15
Is it time for this to be posted yet? Interview with Dr Crabtree about the Red Snapper Love this...
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:30 am to wickowick
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Is it time for this to be posted yet? Interview with Dr Crabtree about the Red Snapper Love this...
holy shite I forgot about that
freaking hilarious
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:39 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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This has absolutely nothing to do with you pulling a statement straight out of your arse about who the recreational sector is comprised of, especially considering the misconception that snapper fishing is a rich man's game is a huge part of the problem.
Well, it kind of is a rich mans game. I really don't see anyone without disposable income going snapper fishing without it being on a charter trip. We just did a repower that was like $30,000 and that was for a boat that's not big enough to fish even mildly rough days.
It's kind of crazy to say that anyone can go catch redsnapper, but it's simply not true.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:05 pm to Barf
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It's kind of crazy to say that anyone can go catch redsnapper, but it's simply not true.
It's a matter of priorities. Just a week ago or so you were talking about how you choose to spend 20K on a boat that's tailored specifically for sight fishing reds. You don't have to be rich to own a poling skiff, you just have to accept it's what you want to do more than anything else if you don't have a lot of disposable income.
Running to 150 ft of water to catch snapper is not even in the same league as bill fishing or chasing tuna. A deep V boat can be had used for the same or less than some of the bass and shallow draft bay boats that so many people own. Factor in that many people split fuel and expenses and it really isn't so far off from what your typical sportsman spends on bass gear or hunting lease dues. I'm the first person in my family to graduate from college and I tuna fish 7-8 times a year. My costs would be tiny comparatively if I only targeted snapper. I certainly wouldn't call myself upper middle class. Lots of people in this state own a good looking bass boat, deer hunt in a decent lease, pay God knows what to shoot ducks, or chase trout in a large bay boat. If I want to do all of those things in a year, then I certainly better be rich, but snapper fishing itself is no more a rich man's game than any of those things.
So yes, anyone who really wants to can go catch red snapper. It absolutely is true.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:14 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Running to 150 ft of water to catch snapper is not even in the same league as bill fishing or chasing tuna. A deep V boat can be had used for the same or less than some of the bass and shallow draft bay boats that so many people own. Factor in that many people split fuel and expenses and it really isn't so far off from what your typical sportsman spends on bass gear or hunting lease dues.
This is a little disingenuous. There is a lot more to fishing snapper than simply owning a boat. Even if we ignore the upfront cost of the hull and keeping the damn thing in good enough shape to be trustworthy, you still have to transport the boat. It's great that you're able to spit costs but someone had to front you the cash to get the boat. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe a bank will loan you the money for a 20 year old boat with a couple thousand hours on the power heads.
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I'm the first person in my family to graduate from college and I tuna fish 7-8 times a year
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:21 pm to Barf
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a bank will loan you the money for a 20 year old boat with a couple thousand hours on the power heads.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:22 pm to Barf
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I really don't see anyone without disposable income going snapper fishing
Well no shite, this can be said about any hobby.
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It's kind of crazy to say that anyone can go catch redsnapper, but it's simply not true.
This is correct, in order for anyone to fish red snapper year round you must be one of the select few who has a commercial license and have been either:
A)gifted a portion of the quota by the Feds
Or
B)purchase/lease a portion of the quota from one of these fishermen who was gifted the quota.
These captains who were gifted a public resource worth millions of dollars are now using class warfare to take an even greater share of the recreational quota.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:24 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Another vote for average middle class family that catches snapper. We fish them out of a 21' express with a 200 out of venice. Are we limited on when we can go? Sure. However, we have fished the 12 mile rigs out of it on the right day. Running to east bay rigs to catch some snapper when they are biting is not that big of a deal. No OT ballers in our family I can assure you.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:29 pm to Barf
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This is a little disingenuous. There is a lot more to fishing snapper than simply owning a boat. Even if we ignore the upfront cost of the hull and keeping the damn thing in good enough shape to be trustworthy, you still have to transport the boat. It's great that you're able to spit costs but someone had to front you the cash to get the boat. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe a bank will loan you the money for a 20 year old boat with a couple thousand hours on the power heads.
You're missing the point. The comment that sparked this implied that it's a rich man's game. I never said it was free, but a lot of the issues you're describing come with a bass or bay boat too, and hundreds of thousands of people across LA own those. Are they all rich? It doesn't take a 35 Freeman to go pick up snapper. Here is a brand new boat that's light enough to be towed by a pickup and perfectly capable of going to get snapper that many, many families could afford to finance on a decent 9-5 or plant job. It's a basspro piece of shite yes, but it's just one example.
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That wasn't me bragging, that was me illustrating that I choose to spend my money on offshore fishing and I'm not a doctor. The trade off is I bass fish out of a 14' bateau with shitty gear and at the place where I hunt I'm more likely to see a used condom on the ground than a scrape.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:41 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
There's probably a pretty big difference between those who can, and those who actually do.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:47 pm to AlxTgr
Heard Capt. Blairsville Wiggins from addictive fishing make some jokes about snapper being endangered.
Anyone who is objective about the subject can see the truth.
Anyone who is objective about the subject can see the truth.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:48 pm to AlxTgr
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There's probably a pretty big difference between those who can, and those who actually do.
I won't argue that a bit, especially considering the limits in place. Still, that wasn't always the case, before the bay boat rage hit. I can remember a time when it was very common to see shorter deeper V center consoles, especially in south MS. My first snapper trip was in junior high with my football coach, and he owned a snapper boat on a teacher's salary.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:59 pm to LSUengr
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Another vote for average middle class family that catches snapper. We fish them out of a 21' express with a 200 out of venice
I guess you and I have a different definition of average. Average to me does not own a $30k boat so they can fish 150 miles from home a handful of times per year.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:29 pm to Barf
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I guess you and I have a different definition of average. Average to me does not own a $30k boat so they can fish 150 miles from home a handful of times per year.
Talk about disingenuous. What he described could easily be called average for families in south LA who like to fish a lot, and that's even with your blind assumption its worth 30K. That boat can do a ton of things besides catch snapper. Also, the "family boat" phenomenon isn't exactly rare around here, with sons, dads, and uncles all putting a bit towards it.
This is also pretty disingenuous coming from a guy who was advocating not too long ago that the "average" south LA fisherman should want to drop 20K on a glorified kayak just to fly fish reds.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:31 pm to Barf
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I guess you and I have a different definition of average. Average to me does not own a $30k boat so they can fish 150 miles from home a handful of times per year.
Well that isn't rich either...
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:35 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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This is also pretty disingenuous coming from a guy who was advocating not too long ago that the "average" south LA fisherman should want to drop 20K on a glorified kayak just to fly fish reds.
Eh, closer to $40,000 but I see your point.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:43 pm to Barf
Posted on 3/11/16 at 1:44 pm to Barf
I've caught no telling how many snapper out of a 19ft bay boat running 3-5 miles off of Dauphin Island, AL.
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