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Posted on 10/22/13 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 2:33 pm to
Nothing wrong with those numbers. Im sure its much more enjoyable hunting that way. I wasnt sure how long it was but obvious much rabbit blood was spilt. I like how little damage is done and the idea of eating wabbits with no lead pellets in them.
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 3:04 pm to
I had a kestrel once, trapped in September and released the following spring. Kestrels are not very good for hunting, the biggest thing she ever caught was sparrow-sized birds, they're only a little bigger than a blue jay and they are the smallest falcon in North America.

You'd be surprised how fast they become trained. She was outside in about 3 weeks, first tethered then untethered.

It's not difficult, at least with kestrels. Gotta be patient and very attentive to weight, feeding them and their diet. You don't even need a mews for kestrels, they're so small. Mine stayed in my bedroom.

I didn't want to feed mine day old chicks or frozen baby quail. I hunted small sparrows and pigeons to feed him. That was the most time consuming part.

ETA: A kestrel is also known as a sparrow hawk. Here's a pic of one (not mine).

This post was edited on 10/22/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 3:30 pm to
I've never seen someone get universal acclaim for something they've done here on the OB. But Teague has successfully pulled it off. Hunting birds are just badass.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166252 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 3:32 pm to
i don't get the big deal... i mean the bird's doing all the hunting and shite...
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21693 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Al Dante


I almost talked myself into a kestrel as a 2nd bird this year. That was when I was still trying to talk myself OUT of trapping a Cooper's. In the end, my lust for an accipiter won out. Pretty little male you had.
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:41 pm to
Teague what do you feed your birds? I was thinking of trapping another kestrel, but finding a food source is time consuming. I really didn't like feeding it frozen quail and day old chicks, so I was hunting sparrows and pigeons all the time. Time consuming. If I had a steady local pigeon supplier it'd be easier. My little kestrel never seemed to like the quail and chicks you can get online. Really liked the pigeon and fresh sparrow.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21693 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 8:58 pm to
I feed the redtail what he catches. Right now I'm feeding the cooper's some dove I had in the freezer. Hope she catches enough game to feed herself too.
Posted by Gianna
Member since Oct 2013
15 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 9:10 pm to
All of this information was very interesting, and I love the bird.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6403 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 9:15 pm to
Do they ever fly away and not come back?
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

Do they every fly away and not come back?


Yes. Some put tracking on the bird so you can find them and try to coax them back down to your fist. I'm not as advanced in the art as Teague is, as I've had just one bird, and he'll correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the most common ways to lose them:

1) Bringing him out to hunt when he's overweight, meaning he's not that hungry and isn't so dependent on you for food.

2) Not being able to take a big catch from him. He eats it all, gets full, and that leads to problem #1.

3) Other predators in the area that may either try to catch him outright, or try to steal his prey and injure him. This is more of a concern with small raptors.

4) Bringing them out when they're not fully trained.
This post was edited on 10/22/13 at 9:32 pm
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14693 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 11:43 pm to
After reading this thread I saw a Bald Eagle flying at lunch and almost had some red breasted hawk fly into the side of my truck.

Always an entertaining read Teague
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21693 posts
Posted on 10/23/13 at 6:37 am to
quote:

he'll correct me if I'm wrong


Nope, that looks accurate to me.


I got her jumping/flying to the glove last night. I know this doesn't look like much, but it is usually the biggest hurdle in training. It goes against their nature to fly TO a person that might eat them. From here, we just keep increasing the distance until she'll come to me reliably on a long line outside. Then she's ready to hit the field.

Training Penny
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119150 posts
Posted on 10/23/13 at 6:42 am to
That video is cool. It amazes me that you can train a wild bird you just caught to do that in a short amount of time.
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